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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Just noting that "terrorist" has become so over-used and diluted that today it's a generic bad word, much as "communist" was in the 1950s, that denotes dislike on the part of the speaker.

Unless there are corpses and/or the potential for explosions and bullets, it's not terrorism.
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Bruce Heerssen
Bruce Heerssen
@bruce@darkmoon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross

And if one wants to be pedantic, terrorism requires a political motivation. Blowing up the bank vault doesn't qualify, no matter how many people die in the process.

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A man is retired.
A man is retired.
@Photo55@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross
An essential ingredient of terrorism is, unsurprisingly, #terror.

Mild-annoyance-ists exist, and various laws probably cover them, but I cannot be terrified by for instance the application of cold #soup to a thing or person, nor a grammatical demand that un- or most specified actions be taken in or over some geographical area.

"ance" may be redundant. I expect there is a better #German word.

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Michael Ormsby
Michael Ormsby
@michaelormsby@mastodon.art replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross My personal linguistic gripe is ”war on”. Reagan’s war on drugs was a very expensive failure. Interestingly LBJ’s war on poverty was half successful, half failure.

I would say that actual war is a serious enterprise only to be undertaken in response to extreme circumstances. So don’t call other stuff “war”, and in the US only undertake war with approval from Congress with a full declaration of war. And don’t play games calling such things “Special Military Operation“.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@michaelormsby Reagan's war on drugs was actually started a decade earlier by Nixon, and it was basically a pretext for a war on hippies (pot) and the black community (cocaine).

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Michael Heaney
Michael Heaney
@benchwhistler@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross Terrorism is just the name we give to cheap violence, the improvised explosive devices, the car stuffed with home made explosives. If you have to stitch the explosives into your waistcoat and buy a bus ticket, then you are a terrorist. But if one has access to the latest Apache gunships, bunker busting bombs, cruise missiles, drones and satellite guided weaponry, then you don't get called a terrorist.

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DefaultKevin
DefaultKevin
@bthylafh@nerdculture.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross and if you ask a chud who calls something communist, socialist, or terrorism to define the term, invariably they fail. I strongly feel you'd get the same from a late 1930s Nazi asked to define "Jewish".

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Steven Zekowski
Steven Zekowski
@steve_zeke@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross

https://freeradical.zone/@steve_zeke/115617922861588668

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dr2chase
dr2chase
@dr2chase@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross I'm not thrilled that two useful tools for analyzing news/opinion nowadays is a combination of "count corpses" and "are they trying to get me to ignore some corpses?" The third useful tool is of course "is it bullshit?"

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Skjeggtroll
Skjeggtroll
@skjeggtroll@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross

My personal lithmus test for what consitutes terrorism is that it has to a) involve the use of violence or the threat of violence, b) directed against civilian targets, c) for the purpose of effecting political change.

It's not a precise definition (one can quibble a lot about what does or does not count as a civilian target, for example) but to me it seems to cover the gist of it.

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Fish Id Wardrobe
Fish Id Wardrobe
@fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross there is a Wolverine line: "terrorist is what the big army calls the small army".

Not sure i completely agree. But.

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@TheLancashireman@hostux.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross

Even if there *are* corpses, it probably isn't terrorism. Just plain "murder" will serve in most cases.

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Biorreactivo
Biorreactivo
@precariousmind@neopaquita.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross agreed, except I wouldn't constrain "communist" to the 50s.

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Graydon
Graydon
@graydon@canada.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@cstross The way the word is used, it should mean "does not accept the status quo and expresses as wish to change it", but practically, it means "does not defer to the status I think I should have" more than it means "does not accept the status quo".

I could wish that "fear makes you stupid" was more widely axiomatic.

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