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Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
@rolle@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp last week

Didn't know @lehtimaeki had a YouTube channel! Subscribed right away. I've been thinking about leaving Strava too, but since I already use Meta services and other corporate platforms, I've stayed, mostly because their API still works. I use it on a small scale to save my runs to a cached JSON file that I can pull into different apps I've built, and I still enjoy the social aspect.

I use around 20 different running apps out of curiosity, and honestly, there are no real alternatives to social running apps. 99% of them are for tracking. If I had the time, I'd build "my own Strava" or even a decentralized running app. But for now, I'll stick with Strava, it works fine for me. I like my "running feed", one single source of truth for all my runs.

For reading, I switched to the Bookshelf app from Goodreads years ago (https://getbookshelf.com). I lost the social aspects of reading, but I don't really miss them since I read alone anyway. There are platforms like Hardcover, StoryGraph, and Bookwyrm, but each of them seems to lack something, whether it's a proper app, features, or decent UI, so I stick with Bookshelf, which is completely local and has a nice user interface.

The way I see it, we have to live with these cognitive dissonances: either choose independence and stay mostly alone or accept the corporate walled gardens for the social features. I use both, roughly 50/50 commercial and open source apps. For the commercial ones, I try to keep control of my data as much as possible by keeping backups, saving to JSON/log/database, using APIs, and so on.

Maybe we should post more runs to Mastodon? The problem is currently I don't have time or energy to post ALL my runs to social media, with all of the details. Something will always be missing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWfadGMo5N0

#Strava #Running #Juokseminen #Apps #Run

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Enrique López-Mañas
Enrique López-Mañas
@eenriquelopez@kotlin.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@rolle
@lehtimaeki
Goodreads is the only social network I haven’t quit yet. I’ve gotten a lot of value from it: many social interactions, friends, and fellow reviewers I regularly interact with, and around 400 reviews, for every book I read.

The platform was excellent before it was acquired by Amazon, and even now it has remained relatively independent. I would really like to see an EU-based alternative with similar social features.

Also: you are doing well subscribing to Juhani's channel :)

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Juhani Lehtimäki
Juhani Lehtimäki
@lehtimaeki@snapp.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@rolle Thanks :)

I'm exploring to see if Bonfire could be a solution to this. Feels like an endurance sport focused instance that still maintains Mastodon compatibility could be a good starting point. That way the audience would be there already.

The most difficult part of building anything social is to get people to join the initial ghost town. With Fediverse, the people are there already.

I have thoughs.
But limited time.

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Tero Ykspetäjä
Tero Ykspetäjä
@tero@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@rolle Hmm…now I’m envisioning a local-first, social running app that would track things locally but use Mastodon posts as the way to share with your contacts. It would post with some specific hashtag, and include a special Mastodon client that would parse posts with that hashtag from your feed to get the social aspect from others.

Luckily, I’m not interested in sharing my exercise stats with anyone. But I fear I might find other uses for this idea later… 🙂

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WTL
WTL
@WTL@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@rolle As you may remember (or not), I abandoned Strava a few years ago, and this is the only place I post about my runs socially. It's pretty straightforward for me.

You're right that everyone has to decide where their line is; I'm no longer willing to share my watching or reading habits with companies (although I do post them to my blog, and discuss all of that here too).

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Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
@rolle@mementomori.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@WTL I actually don't care that much about the social features there, I just enjoy the visuals and stats. That's probably why I didn't notice your absence. Still, I do browse the runs here on Mastodon, so that's kind of the social aspect for me. Best of both worlds, I guess.

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WTL
WTL
@WTL@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@rolle Whatever works! I follow #Running pretty closely and that's all the running community I need.

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