@khaleer @puppygames @djlink While Matrix has other good qualities, I don't think Matrix onboarding or in general interaction is anything like Discord usage - esp for gaming communities.
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@digikata @khaleer @puppygames @djlink not just onboarding. The overall UX of #Matrix is a complete shitshow. If the general public think Mastodon is complicated, they're never going to use Matrix.
@eobet @digikata @khaleer @puppygames @djlink "Matrix" isn't some one centralized thing. That's like saying "Fediverse" but meaning "Mastodon". There are dozens of clients for it https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/, all with their own UX/UI.
@Ostrobothnia @eobet @digikata @khaleer @puppygames @djlink apples to oranges. all the clients are used with exactly the same protocol. Matrix via Element/Cinny/Fluffychat is like using Mastodon via the official app/Tusky/Ice Cubes/Moshidon.
@noodlejetski @eobet @digikata @khaleer @puppygames @djlink Protocols don't define their clients' UX.
@Ostrobothnia @noodlejetski @eobet @digikata @khaleer @puppygames @djlink the UX of every Matrix client I've ever tried has been crap because either the protocol or the server implementations or both are crap. I think I have it on my list to try again for this year to see if they've fixed enough of the massive open headwound level UX issues, but my hopes are very low.
@eobet @digikata @puppygames @djlink I used to think it's a bad thing, but honestly not anymore 🥴
@puppygames @khaleer @eobet @digikata @djlink No, Matrix is the thing that happens sometimes in open source where there is an existing "alternative", it sucks massively, but its existence means that no one else tries. See also, GIMP
@tomw hahahahaha thank you for saying it
btw, PhotoGIMP saves my life on a weekly basis, if the dev ever quits I'm going to self-immolate