@kim_harding @JugglingWithEggs @vfrmedia @pelle @mpjgregoire But I would definitely like to see that alongside massive investment in public transport, safe cycling infrastructure and rural broadband as well as rent controls in areas close to employment to reduce the amount of commuting that has to happen in the first place
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#electriccars are a fake #greenwashing solution, like #carboncapture, or like the danish "climate NGOs" telling people to drop cows and eat pigs instead to reduce CO₂:
> At the moment, an electric car of 60 kilowatt hours (kWh) consuming 20 kilowatt hours per 100 kilometers would have to cover exactly 697,612 km before it is greener than an average petrol car that consumes six liters per 100 kilometers. This is what the Autogids.be website reports.
https://www.ad.nl/auto/bericht-over-vuile-elektrische-auto-klopt-in-de-verste-verte-niet~a03b9a02/?slug_rd=1
@pelle @kim_harding @JugglingWithEggs @vfrmedia @mpjgregoire I actually support both of those examples as harm reduction measures - I would prefer it if people stopped eating animals altogether and we moved away from private vehicles entirely, but realistically that's not going to happen immediately and until we get there, if people won't give up meat entirely then switching from beef to pork will at least reduce carbon emissions, as will petrol to electric vehicle, and every gram of warming
@pelle @kim_harding @JugglingWithEggs @vfrmedia @mpjgregoire emissions we save now will save lives of both humans and other beings in the long run even if we can't stop emitting all of it immediately
@pelle @kim_harding @JugglingWithEggs @vfrmedia @mpjgregoire I have to confess I'm not an EV specialist, I don't drive myself so I don't know anything about cars and I don't speak Dutch so can't read the article, so I'm hoping someone who does have the figures will chime in here. But everything I've read to date seems to be saying that for an equivalent sized newly purchased car carbon emissions are lower for EVs than petrol engines.
I can't read Dutch but the translation says the 697,000 number is very
wrong.
Posters blurb compares an inefficient electric, 20kWh/100km, to an efficient gas 6l/100km. rather disingenuous. In the real world a Hyundai Kona uses 14kWh in electric trim, or 8.8l in gas trim. Most electrics use less than 15kWh per 100km.
The carbon break even point is about 20,000km https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/what-on-earth-ev-climate-impact-1.7608679
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