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@Gargron but like chrome, it uses the blink engine and reinforces google's monoculture over web standards, which is ultimately far more disastrous for everyone than whatever "ai" means for firefox. i would hope @Vivaldi uses a different web engine or builds their own, if they care about the future of the web.

@Gargron @Vivaldi I'm still on Vivaldi and love it but they have said more than once already that they do plan to drop support for manifest v2. Once they do I'll be spinning the Firefork roulette so... Maybe don't get too attached?

We cannot, in fact, have nice things

@Gargron @Vivaldi - Vivaldi good, if you want to use a Chromium browser (I’m not sure I do).
Still on Firefox here (despite the increasingly bad news), albeit it with the Betterfox user.js file, to limit much of the damage.
Another option for the Mac crowd is the Orion browser, which uses Safari’s guts, but actually makes that browser useful by allowing for most of Chrome and Firefox’s extensions.

@Gargron @Vivaldi I also installed Vivaldi yesterday. I am about to set up Linux Mint on an old Mac Mini and Vivaldi was the recommended browser. So far it looks very good.

@Gargron @Vivaldi vivaldi also autodiscovers #rss feeds on a page (small detail yet speaks volumes about their value system).

It will be heartbreaking to part ways with firefox after decades, but alas mozilla does not seem to have a way out of its enshittification predicament. Pacts with the Devil eventually extract their pound of flesh.

@Gargron @Vivaldi Vivaldi is good browser and very customizable.

As for Firefox, Mozilla's leadership still has no idea how to choose the right direction for the project. The browser is behind competitors, Mozilla depends on Google's funding, there is no clear vision and goals for Firefox and Mozilla.

I'm not saying it because I don't like Firefox as long time ago I was using it for years, but there are problems that put a lot of doubt over the project's future.

@Gargron Does Vivaldi support profile and sync between devices? @Vivaldi

#vivaldi #firefox

@Gargron
Yep. Going to make the same move. As long as there's one non-enshittified product available, I'll choose that.
@Vivaldi

I've been using Vivaldi since 2016. Switched after Opera got terminally enshittified. Its main advantage is that its UI doesn't change unless changes are genuinely required for new features. Even when they did a redesign a year or so ago, I was only mad for 10 minutes until I discovered a setting to undo it :D
There are occasional annoying bugs and performance regressions, and the feedback on bug reports could've been better, but overall, I like it.

@Gargron @Vivaldi
LibreWolf?

@Gargron @Vivaldi
I think I'll switch to #Vivaldi as soon as they implement multi-account containers
(https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/25289/multi-account-containers)

@Gargron @Vivaldi I’ll look into doing the same this pm.

@Gargron Good choice. I've been using #Vivaldi for years and years now, and it's always been great.

@Vivaldi

@Gargron @Vivaldi I just wish I could easily sync profiles between computers, but not rely on their cloud to do so.

@Gargron @Vivaldi

Vivaldi also refuses to have an #ai assistant in its browser

@Gargron i hate to be that guy but, why not something like waterfox? https://mastodon.derg.nz/@anthropy/115734945877820056

@gargron @Vivaldi well, as long as one can disable whatever AI means with about:config, it might not be a problem?