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Sarah Jamie Lewis
Sarah Jamie Lewis
@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Mozilla has a new CEO. Once again iterating that the future of Firefox is AI first, AI by default:

"Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software"

"It will evolve into a modern AI browser"

"AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off."

Source: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next-chapter-anthony-enzor-demeo-new-ceo/

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/

Mozilla’s next chapter: Building the world’s most trusted software company

Today, I step into the role of CEO of Mozilla Corporation. It is a privilege to lead an organization with a long history of standing up for people and buil
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Leonardo Uieda
Leonardo Uieda
@leouieda@bertha.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@sarahjamielewis 🤢 (not fun seeing this emoji in my frequently used list)

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stony kark
stony kark
@aapis@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis more like nozilla

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Sofa Lion
Sofa Lion
@sofalion@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis "You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not JOIN them!"

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SjoSjo 🐘️ ☑️ 🇺🇦 🇵🇸
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@sjosjo@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis the fact that this guy does not have a mastodon account says enough for me...

... But in case he is reading stuff here, I'll give him his bottom line:
- squeeze Google for everything they got (because without #Mozilla, #Google are exposed to market abuse/dominance charges) Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze!
- give us a non-evil browser without any fluff like AI, VPN.
- Make it compatible and fast and for the love of God: DO NOT ADD FEATURES NOBODY WANTS
- that's all you crazy *uck!

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Kees de Kooter 🍉
Kees de Kooter 🍉
@kdekooter@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Or: how to alienate your loyal userbase

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Áine
Áine
@princessaine@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis the "it's optional" defense is so very tired. it doesn't matter, i don't feel comfortable supporting a company that feels comfortable using the slop machine that is literally scorching our earth. even if i can turn it off

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[object Object]
@placebo@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis why don't they just create a new browser? Like some hot new fancy AI-first browser based on firefox. This way: (a) firefox users won't need to suffer and (b) people who don't care and never will care about fierfox will be incentivized to try this new shiny thing. Currently they have appeal to no one.

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Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈
Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈
@fabiscafe@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis let's go to @zenbrowser 🙌

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Nicole Parsons
Nicole Parsons
@Npars01@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

AI is:
1. Spyware
2. Enshittification of Search
3. State surveillance
4. An energy & water hog
5. Election interference
6. Funded by the most corrupt industry on the planet
7. A violation of privacy
8. A way to balloon utility rates
9. A path to mass layoffs
10. A way to suppress wages
11. A bubble

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Qob
Qob
@qob@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis last thing i want is AI in my browser

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Snake Oil Salesman
Snake Oil Salesman
@SnakeOilSalesman@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis whos asking for all this AI?

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su_liam
su_liam
@su_liam@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis “An ecosystem of trusted software,” built on a foundation of theft. Trusted.

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Jmvars
Jmvars
@Jmvars@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis "the most trusted software company" and "AI first, AI by default" is a contradiction.

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Neil Moffatt
Neil Moffatt
@NicelyManifest@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis All while AI is knowingly unreliable. It admits to making things up. Continues to do so and says sorry each time but keeps confabulating.

Like a teenager - so really not something to be part of trusted software.

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the elder sea
the elder sea
@eldersea@expressional.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis
"Ai browser" is just such a useless thing.

These people are cooked, and by extension, so are we.

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Ben Todd
Ben Todd
@monkeyben@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

The AI in Firefox has already lost me. They aren't listening to their core fan base anymore.

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Jonathan Kamens 86 47
Jonathan Kamens 86 47
@jik@federate.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis I'm sure things will go just as well for this CEO as they've gone for all the previous ones.

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Rachel Lawson
Rachel Lawson
@rachel@norfolk.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis @hazz223 CEOs / CIOs are always recruited by the very people who already have the problematic thinking. So, it’s rare for the to be a significant change to major strategies.

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Harry W.
Harry W.
@hazz223@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rachel @sarahjamielewis agreed.

We’re going to *continue* to watch Mozilla and Firefox descend into nothing. (That’s my opinion anyway).

Ugh, so frustrating to watch.

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MeaTLoTioN
MeaTLoTioN
@meatlotion@mas.erb.pw replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis that's just some more AI bullshit noone asked for.

Thank God I don't use Firefox.

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HashRaydamon
HashRaydamon
@HashRaydamon@furries.club replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis FirefoxOS was also a future Mozilla wasted years building, and we know how that ended

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Henri Verymetaldev
Henri Verymetaldev
@verymetalsite@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

Not so trusted any more.

*hunt for non-AI software intensifies*

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Scott Wilson
Scott Wilson
@scottwilson@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis Yeah... They already lost me.

To your point about Firefox forks struggling to "undo" all the AI cruft, I don't feel like that's sustainable over the long term.

Then again, I don't have a solution. The LibreWolf and Waterfox teams are fighting the good fight.

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DistroWatch
DistroWatch
@distrowatch@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis Feels like Mozilla has been trying to slowly kill Firefox for about 15 years. I think they are close to succeeding.

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Paul_IPv6
Paul_IPv6
@paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

sigh...

@mozilla your future isn't AI. you're not trying for VC money, are you? if not, no reason to drink the toxic AI kool-aid. please stop.

go back to your roots. a safe, reliable browser, where safe includes privacy proctection and doesn't include hallucinations.

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Thorium
Thorium
@Thorium@social.linux.pizza replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis Definitely should be an opt-in feature with a single, simple control. The current method to disable it forces it on many non-technical users.

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Fabiano Celentano
Fabiano Celentano
@fabio@zirk.us replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis A sad development. I really hope that someone, somehow manages to get another non-webkit free software browser going, but I'm not optimistic.

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Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell
@kevinrns@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

Bye bye Mozilla, google subsidiary.

AI is Asbestos.

We'll be digging it out of
everything, for generations.

Cory.
AI is Asbestos. We'll be digging it out of everything, for generations. Cory.
AI is Asbestos. We'll be digging it out of everything, for generations. Cory.
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Matt Hall
Matt Hall
@401matthall@mastodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

...

The hoops you have to jump through to turn off AI in Firefox right now belies these quotes.

I kinda feel like they've burned their trust already. Mayhaps I'm just a bitter nearly-old man?

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Sarah Jamie Lewis
Sarah Jamie Lewis
@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Mozilla insist that people trust them. I assume they have insight and metrics that reinforce that view.

Perhaps I am getting old and this truly is the only path forward to maintain an independent browser.

I continue to feel that this is a terrible idea that has likely irrevocably jeopardized the future of firefox and, by extension, the open web.

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Sarah Jamie Lewis
Sarah Jamie Lewis
@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

The overhead of disabling every single AI-first change in Firefox is already starting to weigh on firefox-forks.

My view on this hasn't really shifted in the last few months: unless an existing organization, with strong principles, steps forwards and commits to a hard fork I don't really see a future for Firefox.

(I think there are probably only 1-2 orgs with the combination of experience / maturity to actually pull that off, and none of them seem to be even considering that kind of future)

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Tim Chambers
Tim Chambers
@tchambers@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis Came to same realization a year ago. My choice @Vivaldi - although their overall browser is closed source, and they do use Chromium rendering engine (open source but deeply influenced by Google) they are trustworthy in their defiance of big tech, their intense effort at privacy, blocking every privacy issue Chome does not - and their passion for the Open Social web. Plus their building in of Notes and RSS apps into browser makes you less dependent on cloud systems for such.

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Caden
Caden
@tarix29@tech.lgbt replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@tchambers @sarahjamielewis @Vivaldi you may already know this, but all of Vivaldi is open source except the UI

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LΞX/NØVΛ :lesbian_flag: 🇪🇺
LΞX/NØVΛ :lesbian_flag: 🇪🇺
@lexinova@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis you are exactly right, firefox is dead.

Open community must now check on what we must be doing now.

I use cromite, but it's a temporary choice as those AI feature slowly invade chromium too.

So it's now or never for @servo , #ladybug etc.

After it will be too late to save the open web.

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uebelhacker
uebelhacker
@uebelhacker@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis not sure whether #firefox forks like in @iode's #iodéOS can also offer "AI disable by default" or remove any #AI code, but it seems a legitimite way to go. Also, it will be an #EU country to handle such modifications. #France #digitalsouvereignity

"""
iodé Browser

iodé browser is based on Firefox with #telemetry disabled, trackers removed, and alternative search engines: #Qwant (default), #Brave, #Ecosia, #Metager, Qwant light, #Startpage and several #Searx instances.
"""
https://iode.tech/iodeos/

iodé

iodéOS - iodé

Privacy-friendly selection of apps We have preinstalled for you a selection of privacy-friendly apps, listed below. It is to be noted that we also have made the uninstallation of preinstalled apps possible with iodéOS! iodé The place to control and visualize the data transmissions from your phone. From here you can: News The News app ... Read more
https://social.tchncs.de/tags/iod%C3%A9OS
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Bart Veldhuizen  🚀
Bart Veldhuizen 🚀
@BartV@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis I’ll only believe him if there is an easy to find AI kill switch in Firefox. So far, there isn’t.

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derekheld
derekheld
@derekheld@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

Two button meme split into two panes. In the first pane there are two red buttons on a control panel. One button is labeled “Keep telemetry disabled.” The other is “Enable telemetry so Mozilla can see the disabling of AI features”. In the second pane a visibly sweating man unsure of which button to push is labeled as “privacy minded users”
Two button meme split into two panes. In the first pane there are two red buttons on a control panel. One button is labeled “Keep telemetry disabled.” The other is “Enable telemetry so Mozilla can see the disabling of AI features”. In the second pane a visibly sweating man unsure of which button to push is labeled as “privacy minded users”
Two button meme split into two panes. In the first pane there are two red buttons on a control panel. One button is labeled “Keep telemetry disabled.” The other is “Enable telemetry so Mozilla can see the disabling of AI features”. In the second pane a visibly sweating man unsure of which button to push is labeled as “privacy minded users”
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ravenlb :agender_flag:
@ravenlb@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis feels like we are all watching for the rug pull everyone knows is coming ☹️

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Alison Meeks
Alison Meeks
@Alison@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis I trust FF like gas station sushi.

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Matt Hall
Matt Hall
@401matthall@mastodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

Doesn't really _feel_ independent if it's using AI does it?

They are intrinsically linking themselves to monitizers and IP thieves.

(The provocative language is a choice. :D)

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awoodland
awoodland
@awoodland@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis once upon a time I trusted them on privacy a whole lot more than Chrome overall. Now I see them as just a different set of risks you have to accept if two rendering engines is to be the future.

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Daniel Blake
Daniel Blake
@Daniel_Blake@mastodon.top replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis I suspect that the trust is based on outdated perceptions of FF.

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monkee :fairydust:
@monkee@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis

"Turn off" is not a real choice. I have to do work on every fucking update.

(I know that you know that - i just need to vent!)

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