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Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:
Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:
@janl@narrativ.es  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

This is an absolutely wild story:

- a German inventor, unrelated to the defence industry, registers a patent

- the German military immediately classifies its contents as security related, including potentially endangering NATO’s nuclear deterrence, and forbids the inventor to discuss the patent with anyone

- a little while later, the patent office asks if he used any GenAI tooling to create the patent: he did

- the classification is immediately dropped as there is no more guarantee that those tools now keep a copy of that information, so there is nothing to be done about keeping this a secret

I don’t even know how to begin contemplating how completely bonkers this whole situation is.

https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/wdr/patent-staatsgeheimnis-nukleare-abschreckung-nato-100.html

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Daniel
Daniel
@mrtazz@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl plot twist: Büro 99 recently switched all their communication channels over to using LLM chat bots

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Brian Smith
Brian Smith
@BrianSmith950@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl
Puzzled, I remember being taught that the applicant needed to maintain whatever was being patented "as a trade secret" until it was formally published by the patent office.
If it became public knowledge prior to formal publication, the patent would be invalid.

Can using GEN AI be considered as keeping it secret?

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Alcea
Alcea
@alcea@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl
This is how #patents work nowadays ?

Its asif being asked if you used google for research in the early 2000s or whether you visited a library..

wat

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Robert Thau
Robert Thau
@rst@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl FWIW, the US at least has a similar set of procedures -- the military gets to review patent applications and declare the contents secret. Back in college quite a few years ago now, one of the professors in my department had a student who needed to find a new Ph.D. thesis topic after they grabbed the old one...

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mathias
mathias
@mathias@rhizospherelabs.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl is there now some clue as to what it is? Also I remember reading recently about all these relatively-smart people taken in by ChatGPT and friends, asking it about physics and it hallucinating stuff such that they believed they were finding new types physics or cold fusion or whatever.

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davecb
davecb
@davecb@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl Sounds "too good to be true". From a German/Swiss TV station, considered BBC-like

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Fedor Indutny
Fedor Indutny
@indutny@mean.engineer replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@janl I’m so curious about the patent now

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