Post by @Federation_Bot

ICE eats at restaurants I know and love, nice comfy meal before going back out there and destroying more lives.

It’s weird how much this enrages me. I hope the restaurant staff knows who they’re serving. I hope ICE knows they know. I hope ICE officers eat with nagging doubts about food safety.

I heard a rumor — this one not well-substantiated — that they ate at a restaurant and then come back and raided it the next day.

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Paul Cantrell

@inthehands@hachyderm.io 9 mo. ago

ICE assaulting a pregnant woman.

Covering their license plates with fake spray-on snow to hide the numbers.

Getting pelted with snowballs by the crowd and responding with pepper spray — which only increased the snowballs.

Just this afternoon’s local news.

Video of the snowballs (CW: person being assaulted, dragged)
(UPDATE: video attached in case FB blocks; source URL is https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ZaUBtkGCZ/)

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Paul Cantrell

@inthehands@hachyderm.io 9 mo. ago

A request for everyone: please don’t be this person. We’re going through a miserable time here in MSP, and reply guy snot does not make it better.

A •lot• of replies I got are about what is illegal, or should be illegal, or must be illegal, and…yeah, we know, believe me, we know. If what you’re offering is commiseration — as with most replies — I welcome that wholeheartedly! This sucks, and it’s nice to hear people say, “Yeah, that sucks.”

But please don’t come into my mentions to argue. Wrong time, wrong target.

https://mastodon.social/@wesdym/115731049092776077

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@inthehands

Illegal. Completely illegal. But everyone agrees: nobody’s allowed to stop ICE from breaking state and local laws, only issue citations afterwards.

To mismarked vehicles. With masked drivers who refuse to identify themselves. How do you cite •that•?!

@wesdym

I don't believe that's true, though I admit I'm not sure what the margin is. States may not interfere with federal agents doing their jobs, within the law. But local cops could stop and arrest an ICE agent for drunk driving, for example, even if they're on duty. That's not interfering with the performance of their duty, because drunk driving is not part of their remit, and it's a public safety issue requiring immediate responce.

@inthehands

Correct or not, the legal advice that cities are receiving is that doing anything that “obstructs” a federal LE operation — even doing a drunk driving check — would place the cop and the city in legal jeopardy. If you want to argue with that, take it up with the various lawyers who are dispensing that advice, because it is the •advice• — not the actual reality of the law, whatever it may be — that determines what happens on the ground.

@wesdym

I could lay all this out for you, and after a few thousand words you MIGHT start to understand it, but I'm frankly just put off by your smug attitude.

Go be smugly wrong on someone else's time. — Screenshot of posts: @inthehands Illegal. Completely illegal. But everyone agrees: nobody’s allowed to stop ICE from breaking state and local laws, only issue citations afterwards. To mismarked vehicles. With masked drivers who refuse to identify themselves. How do you cite •that•?! @wesdym I don't believe that's true, though I admit I'm not sure what the margin is. States may not interfere with federal agents doing their jobs, within the law. But local cops could stop and arrest an ICE agent for drunk driving, for example, even if they're on duty. That's not interfering with the performance of their duty, because drunk driving is not part of their remit, and it's a public safety issue requiring immediate responce. @inthehands Correct or not, the legal advice that cities are receiving is that doing anything that “obstructs” a federal LE operation — even doing a drunk driving check — would place the cop and the city in legal jeopardy. If you want to argue with that, take it up with the various lawyers who are dispensing that advice, because it is the •advice• — not the actual reality of the law, whatever it may be — that determines what happens on the ground. @wesdym I could lay all this out for you, and after a few thousand words you MIGHT start to understand it, but I'm frankly just put off by your smug attitude. Go be smugly wrong on someone else's time.

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