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Stefano Marinelli
Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

In the past few days I’ve seen talk about RAM prices shooting up due to demand from big datacenters.

Today I read that a historic brand like Crucial - I own plenty of their hardware, including SSDs - is dropping consumer products to focus on gear for those same datacenters.
The result (or maybe the intention?) is to push people away from self hosting, undermine the OwnYourData idea and make everyone depend on huge datacenters for life.

So much for owning your data.
So much for decentralisation.

Because taking down one giant datacenter is far easier than taking down thousands or millions of individual nodes.

Friends and colleagues, don’t trade your freedom for a bit of convenience. Once you give it away, getting it back is very hard.

Always Own Your Data.

#OwnYourData #SelfHosting

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Björn 🇪🇺 Starkimarm
Björn 🇪🇺 Starkimarm
@Starkimarm@23.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@stefano
Some time in the last millennium I started to install somewhere from 2-4x of RAM than was deemed sensible in my computers and that custom has served me well. I have 64GB in my desktop and 256GB in my main server and I can usually pick a convenient time to upgrade.

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Stefano Marinelli
Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Starkimarm that's a wise idea

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Ben Todd
Ben Todd
@monkeyben@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano

So the billionaires have gobbled up all the worlds money and now they are gobbling up all the worlds computer resources. Leeches!

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Barry Cook
Barry Cook
@bazcook@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano - the whole point behind a 'personal computer' was that the user wasn't relying on a dumb keyboard attached to some anonymous mainframe elsewhere that held the OS, software and your data. With a PC, the users was in control, on a device that was local. If not in their lap.
Now we're being told that subscription-based software, virtual software (including OS), cloud-based storage and a software application that chooses what it will offer the user is the way to go.

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Internet Rando
Internet Rando
@mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano I wish people knew how important it is to ask "where is my data?", when they do literally anything.

Not, "do I have access to my data", but "where are the bits physically".

I'd like to think making people think about their data in its physical form makes it easier for people to realize how much control over themselves they're giving away.

I wish I was better at communicating this because it should be important to them.

Local-first software design principles should be some kinda law.

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Crystal 💾💽📼🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
Crystal 💾💽📼🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
@crystal717@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano I think we'll adapt 😊 Lot of unutilized hardware out there, HDD prices might be less affected, companies selling off windows 10 PCs, etc etc.

Also yeah the market might be flooded with used datacenter parts pretty soon.

Finding RAM for a new PC will be tougher.

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John Tinker
John Tinker
@johntinker@hear-me.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano The local university surplus outlet always has inexpensive hardware. I picked up 20 500GB drives for $1 each, for example.

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Ray McCarthy
Ray McCarthy
@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano
"Because taking down one giant datacenter…"
Physical sabotage, or an genuine accident with a digger!

No Silver Lining
“If an in-house system fails, only one bank, or one retailer or one supplier is affected,” insisted Louise. “If everything is outsourced to the Cloud, even if it’s a hundred times more reliable it’s an apocalyptically bad event because you lose everything at once. There are too few cloud providers, who are too similar and too big.”
11 years ago!
https://www.corvidspress.com/fiction/otherworld-series/no-silver-lining/

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lemgandi
lemgandi
@lemgandi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano Him. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. OTOH, you right that the best threat model for this IS malice.

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fedops 💙💛
fedops 💙💛
@fedops@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano if everything goes to plan this time next year you can probably snap up a fully loaded server from a used equipment broker for less than that stick of Ram now.

That's what happened in 2002/3. We bought chock-full Catalyst 6509s new in wrap on a pallet for less than the supervisor module would've cost a year earlier.

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Anthony 🐨🦘🪃🇦🇺🕯🌟🧙‍♂️
Anthony 🐨🦘🪃🇦🇺🕯🌟🧙‍♂️
@skyfire747@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano I have nothing stored in the cloud apart from boring emails from google in gmail.

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Trouble
Trouble
@trouble@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano Take the first step: download your data from the cloud to your home. Verify that everything’s in it (could be simple like a count of your photos). E.g. Google’s Takeout is notorious for missing the occasional photo! E.g. Amazon doesn’t even offer a bulk download feature (file a support ticket!). Keep growing your list: Bank (default is to keep for 18 months? Boo!), utility company (I have usage data for >20 years), phone call history (I keep 10 yrs for business taxes), and more.

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Jason Gooljar
Jason Gooljar
@lostarlingtonian@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano The sad thing is I feel most people don't even realize that they DON"T OWN their data if they're reliant on social media, etc.

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Michael Eggers 🇺🇦🇪🇺
Michael Eggers 🇺🇦🇪🇺
@pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano Going back to HDDs if I have to. Time to make videogames like we have in the good old days witha memory footprint of 4MB.

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emilianosandri
emilianosandri
@emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano Totally agree and I wanna add that often you don't even to self host to Own Your Data, you can start small with stuff such as:
- backing up your photo on your desktop/laptop using the gold old cable and an app supporting PTP protocol (Windows and Mac have at least one preinstalled while on BSD and Linux you have many options to download from package repositories), no iCloud or Google Photos needed
- choosing DRM free ebooks, music and games and keeping a backup of them
- using Syncthing to sync your data across devices

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Stefano Marinelli
Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@emilianosandri exactly. and if it's critical data, you can pay someone for helping you to safely store or manage them. It will be cheaper and more secure than "daaa claaaaooouudd"

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Federation Bot
Federation Bot
@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano I wish for a future where home users entrusts a local IT technician to setup backups and other IT stuff rather than paying cloud subscriptions and throwing away their devices at the first malfunction.

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Lucas
Lucas
@P_Lucas@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@stefano In 5 years:
Curical is reborn because AI was a big hype.

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