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Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
@statsguy@mas.to  路  activity timestamp last month

I really, really wish Your Party would just give up and go home.

We have a good political party on the left of British politics - the Green Party - with plenty of support behind it right now, and anything that splits the left-wing vote only goes to make sure we end up with a Reform UK government at the next election.

Splitting the left is absolutely the last thing we need in our crazy FPTP electoral system.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyx2zjd8qvo

#UKPolitics #YourParty #Corbyn

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Strypey
Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  路  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@statsguy
> Splitting the left is absolutely the last thing we need in our crazy FPTP electoral system

So campaign to for proportional representation and get rid of FPP. Because that's actually the problem, not freedom of association.

People have been trying to get the whole left into one party since Marx advocated for it. It's never worked and it never will, for the same reason putting more cats in one sack never leads to more cooperation among cats.

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Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
@statsguy@mas.to replied  路  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@strypey Oh yes, totally. But the only way we can do that is by getting a party sympathetic to the idea elected.

If we keep electing parties of the right, we will never get PR, as they are very well aware that the right is far better at unifying behind a single party than the left ever has been or will be.

Moving to PR is Green Party policy.

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Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
@statsguy@mas.to replied  路  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@strypey Mind you, I'm not very optimistic that we would get PR even with a sympathetic government.

We had a referendum on changing the voting system in 2011. There was an absolutely overwhelming result in favour of keeping FPTP. No guarantee that wouldn't happen again, and I'm not sure if any party would be brave enough to implement a new system without a referendum.

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David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange replied  路  activity timestamp last month

@statsguy They can鈥檛 work with the Greens because they are a collection of the politicians who can鈥檛 work with anyone.

Corbyn belongs to the era of Labour politics that the Life of Brian sketch was written to parody.

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Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
Adam Jacobs 馃嚭馃嚘
@statsguy@mas.to replied  路  activity timestamp last month

@david_chisnall They interviewed someone from YP on Today this morning, and Nick Robinson specifically mentioned the Life of Brian.

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