@sundogplanets This is also Snowpiercer.

@sundogplanets Well, gee. That plan doesn't sound like it could have any unforeseen consequences, does it?

Just less sunlight. On which all life on Earth depends for survival. And no practical way to remove the "tons" of particles if we needed to.

What's that? They'll eventually fall to Earth? Well, that sounds much better. Now we'll just have massive pollution over land, rivers and seas of a type whose effects are as yet unexplored. What could possibly go wrong?

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eejits

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Insane on its face, based on highschool level physics. Do they know how plants work?

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Oh boy. I just finished "Nuclear War", a scenario by Annie Jacobsen, and I'm still trying to shake off the sense of impending grief for everything.
Great book though. Learned a lot.

I might have Termination Shock in my tbr queue: been on a bit of an "end of the world" tack.

@sundogplanets just from the headline my first thought was orbital sunshades, to compete with the orbital mirrors.

I wonder what you’d get if you didn’t pay either of them

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@sundogplanets Good book, but I don't want to live it.

@sundogplanets Highly recommend "Termination Shock" -- and it really is a warning not a suggestion.

@sundogplanets We are already doing the Moab thing from Fall, might as well break out all his Torment Nexus stuff

@sundogplanets maybe, just maybe, we could use something like this as a tool. But only after we have stopped making the problem worse and we’ve researched this idea for decades.

@sundogplanets we should know better than to allow rich and shady people to lock us within their own proprietary systems for a thinly disguised veil of "benefit". Especially that these have no current precedence for legislation... Stay cautious.

@sundogplanets We're going to need a bigger train.

@sundogplanets Could I get my earth suit first, please?

@sundogplanets I hope the ants don't get my air conditioning... 🐜

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Yet we cant seem to get going with this.

https://www.gblsim.com/cooling-ultra-white-paint/

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@sundogplanets JFC

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Uh-oh! I hope it's at least funny as he usually is.

@sundogplanets Would you be interested in investing in my luxury train that goes non-stop around the world during the coming ice age?

@sundogplanets the genocidal duo doing genocidal shit

@sundogplanets Spraying the atmosphere with weird shit. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO FUCKING WRONG?!

@sundogplanets @oldguycrusty 20 billion per year seems belony to me.

Nobody really wants #sai but when impact #climatechange becomes devastating it might become our last resort. My blog describes how SAI can cool the earth in 2 years and keep temperature steady even if CO2 keeps rising. We still need to slash CO2, but slower and avoiding collapse
Risks are big, but I have summed them up realistically without all the doom and gloom.
Its last resort time

Please read before you disagree
And sorry, its very long and thorough

https://econrevolt.com/posts/2023/10/stratinj2/

@sundogplanets Isn't this also similar to Snowpiercer? Do not want...

@sundogplanets Isn't this also similar to Snowpiercer? Do not want...

@sundogplanets Well, fuck 😑

@sundogplanets @markhurst

This calculation is so familiar: acknowledge but immediately brush off the prospect of harm to some, outweighed by the benefit to others.

“There would be some winners and some losers. But in general, some amount of ... stratospheric aerosol injection would likely benefit a whole lot of people, probably most people”

@sundogplanets That's also the plot of the last episode of "Dinosaurs".

@sundogplanets That's the one with the sulfur rockets, right?

@sundogplanets Or watch Snowpiercer

@sundogplanets weather engineering is also in Kim Stanley Robinson's The Ministry for the Future.

@sundogplanets Men will literally blot out the sun rather than go to therapy...I mean, cut back on carbon emissions.

@sundogplanets I remember reading Stuart Brand's book about this stuff a few years ago and thinking that the use of aerosols to reduce solar radiation was cheap enough to do that a billionaire could just do it, and there wouldn't be anything anyone could do about it.

@sundogplanets Potential side effect of killing off (or seriously degrading) solar power, which as is the current way of things, will result in an increase in fossil fuel usage.

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Yedvab is a colossal goddamn maniac.

And why is every rich person also insane now?

@sundogplanets "If we kill all of the crops & starve all humans, CO2 production will decrease!"
Their collective brain mass is just large enough to fit on a microscope slide.

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"a key threshold [has] already been crossed. Humanity [has] gained the power to turn down the sun, and barely anyone on the planet even [knows]."

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Nearly 20 years ago now, there was a piece critiquing another sulfate aerosol scheme.

It was entitled "Can Dr. Evil Save The World?".

Evidently, the venture capitalists concerned have learned nothing.

@sundogplanets glitter will be the end of us all

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I am now wondering if Termination Shock happened, in a small way, during Covid lock down when suddenly the aeroplanes stopped flying, and we all sat outside in our gardens enjoying a very warm year of nothing else to do?

@sundogplanets I think of this every time this comes up:

"We don’t know who struck first, us or them. But we know that it was us that scorched the sky. "

- Morpheus, The Matrix

@sundogplanets Added to my reading list!

https://kirja.casa/user/kallekn/generatednote/46857#anchor-46857

Academics, looks like there's an open letter against solar geoengineering that you can sign on to here: https://www.solargeoeng.org/

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Can't believe we're at "The solution to polluting the atmosphere is more pollution of a different type."