The kids hate so-called "AI". They make fun of it. "That's AI" means "that's BS."
It's all such a waste. So much potential from Mozilla, squandered year after year.
They could have been the heroes.
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@vkc vivaldi seems to be the last one without AI slop integrated at least from the bigger browsers.
"We’re focused on making the best browser, which means recognizing that everyone has different needs. For some, AI is part of everyday life. For others, it’s useful only occasionally. And many are simply curious about what it can offer, but unsure where to start."
Leaving out deliberately those who knows this is a con, like crytpo and NTFs and want to see it burn to the ground instead of burning the only planet we have.
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@vkc nope, just nope.
@vkc librewolf. Dont use any browser that does this. This is a hard line in the sand and nobody should be crossing it.
I wish there was an environment variable like $NO_AI which I could set to value 1 and then I would have an AI-free experience everywhere.
(A Unix/Linux user dreaming.)
@vkc ladybird, servo, and flow cannot come fast enough.
@vkc agreed! Come on Firefox!
@vkc Firefox was my browser for years. Then a few years ago they kept breaking stuff and making it more like every other mainstream browser.
I remember when they made Firefox out of the Mozilla suite to have a lean, unbloated browser.
@vkc I wish Mozilla explained what an "AI window" actually will be.
I don't have concerns so far with Firefox using local ML models for language translation, alt text generation, tab group name suggestions, and link preview summary features.
@vkc Me too, Veronica. Me too
@vkc this was the reason for me to make waterfox my default browser.
If they want to put AI in the browser, they should make it an extension.
@vkc what I don't get is, none of their customers want this. if we were trend-followers we'd be using Chrome or edge. I haven't seen a company misread what their customers want this badly since Nintendo
@vkc Yes. That.
@vkc I want NO AI in my browser.
PERIOD.
@vkc AI dislike apart, here’s the kicker. I’m not paying a cent for any of it. What is their end game here? Stealing more of our data? Serving us propaganda they get paid for?
I’m with you, I just want a browser.
@vkc They're asking for feedback over there, if you're interested. I left some feedback. A lot of people did.
@vkc You need a safe work environment to do real innovation. An "inefficient" bureaucracy like Bell Labs or the University of Helsinki will produce new stuff. A company run in "hardcore" mode will motivate everyone to get the same, safe, popular choices on their resume, to be better squared away for when the Layoff Fairy leaves an HR meeting invitation under their pillow
I promise when I reboot the Mozilla brand after their inevitable collapse, we'll kick all the so-called "AI" to the curb.
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Introducing Human Intelligence
@vkc Mozilla ? You mean Netscape ?
The kids hate so-called "AI". They make fun of it. "That's AI" means "that's BS."
It's all such a waste. So much potential from Mozilla, squandered year after year.
They could have been the heroes.
@vkc my overall feeling: https://youtu.be/QiZNSzWIaLo
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Why does new profanity sound so wholesome these days?
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There seems to be the belief in many tech quarters that if you are not up to your eyes in AI you won't exist in 5 years.
Once the crash happens those who have kept a sensible distance will most likely cope best.
@vkc
I heard some tech pundits say "they're trying to do AI differently. Of youre going to have to have AI, you want it done differently".
No! If you want to be different, _don't_ do AI! Be the one that goes against the flow, be the one company the people flock to because you haven't given in to hype. Be where the cool people want to be.
@vkc Oh, I like to play around with a chatbot every once in a while, but the LLM has its own process on the machine that isn't allowed to access anything beyond the files in its own subdirectories. It can't browse the web, all it can do is "talk". And I use it for fun, I make it write silly poems or come up with names for fictional characters, companies, bands, cities, countries, art styles, etc.
@vkc There are no heroes.
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When I hear PR talk about AI I can't help but be reminded of the hype around 3D televisions or Second Life. For a while it was hard to avoid breathless articles about them and companies feeling obliged to have a presence even if for no obvious benefit.
And both still exist but they aren't being endlessly shoehorned into products.
I wonder if/when the bubble will burst or if it will be superseded.
@rivercityrandom @prlzx what are you talking about, I made a trillion zoomba bucks from my jpeg collection! /s
@vkc My granddaughter and her schoolmates say that all the time. She's eight.
If eight-year-olds know it's trash boosters have no excuse.
@vkc (Fondly remembering when "That looks 'shopped" was the insult of its age)
@vkc Thankfully #Librewolf keeps removing the things we don't want from #Mozilla in their #Firefox fork.
@vkc They also appear to have generated a very accurate sense of whats IA made. Thinks i cannot notice, my kids say very confidently, thats AI dad.
I want Mozilla Foundation to be organized like the Python Software Foundation where there's an achievable donation level that lets you vote for the board of directors.
Then we could vote for board members that could fire the AI cultists currently running Mozilla.
@vkc My kid said this last night, watching a Michael Jackson live performance of “Smooth Criminal.” “That’s AI-“ meaning it’s fake, there’s a trick, it’s special effects.
@kralcttam yeah, I've heard it more and more from the youth around me. "That's AI" means "that's fake". It's dismissive.
@vkc @kralcttam sadly (ex: thr Michael Jackson example) this seems to also mean: "therw's no way to know what is real."
I feel it too. And: this is going to create *big* problems.
@vkc That's it. So it's in Minnesota and Georgia. Probably nationwide.
@vkc I'm cool with them offering things besides a browser but they never make anything I want. Give me privacy-focused email, calendar and messaging!
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