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Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

It's incredible to me how we gave up on so many aspects of privacy in the past five years. Things that we were taking for granted not long ago.

Now, some think it's totally normal to record others without their consent in any contexts.

People feel entitled to others' images and personal lives, incessantly demanding access to it. Everyone needs to share everything publicly online or be deemed suspicious, and excluded.

This has greatly eroded the fabric of social relationships and trust in our societies.

There is so much we need to do to heal this culture and the damages that have been done and continue to be done.

We need to treat each other with respect. Genuine respect as human beings. And consent, true consent with true choices, is at the center of that.

#Privacy #HumanRights #Consent

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Peaches
@busheling1@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon 💯💚💚💚

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Marlow
@emberfox@bark.lgbt replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon Like I hate how normalized it is to only communicate on platforms that collect and sell my info on mass. Like so many people hate texting alone.

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nieuemma
@nieuemma@mastodon.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@emberfox @Em0nM4stodon I got my partner onto Mastodon, and now we only
message each other on Signal. Perhaps a small success, but worth it.

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Mongoose148
@MRPurkesGuzman@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon We don't share facts, spaces, or social norms at all. I'm not sure of the solution because the ability to see people thriving outside of old "norms" is life changing and even saving. How do we keep that while also giving us a foundation of agreed upon facts?

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Yora
@yora@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon "You" did.

Not "us".

Not everyone.

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Erminia Haller
@erminiahaller@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon I live in a very, very, extremely touristic Italian city and visitors feel entitled to take pictures of me walking in the alleys. When I notice it, I cover my face with my hand, but I guess I am (together with other locals) in billions of not-consensual pictures all over the world. So upsetting! And we don't know what to do about it :(

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joriki
@joriki@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

typo

errored -> eroded -> frayed?

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Gabor Hrasko
@ghrasko@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

The whole discussion is very interesting.

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Bargearse
@largess@mastodon.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

People not putting their children all ober social media would be a start, let alone the shit stains "monetising" them...ffs

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Peter Brown
@peterbrown@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon we need to have default copyright over our images and our voices.

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FelisCatusDomesticus
@FelisCatusDomesticus@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

Kids.. really..

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Elena Brescacin
@elettrona@poliversity.it replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon @_elena about the discussion where they try to compare humans to other animals, it's like saying: "it's a problem. [random microwave product] cannot be used by a blind as it doesn't talk"; and someone replies: "tell me, does the sink talk?", to indicate "it's a self-made problem", just because the sink is an equipment found in a house as well as the microwave. It's so-called polluting the debate, IMHO.
And very irritating.

But to reply in tone, I have no problem to propose: try approaching mama wolf with her little wolves to cuddle them like a plush, and have a selfie with them. Let's share the experience with unnecessary privacy if you ever come back!

Going serious: we're experiencing the debate on erotic websites and age verification systems. I'm perfectly aligned to Electronic Frontier Foundation's privacy battles because being daily surveilled, without consent, is not an excuse. And with which reason? Protect kids.
Kids aren't protected this way, because sex predators, being spied by age verification stuff, will go to hunt in apparently free territories: hobby related networks, gaming chats, etc. The risk is already there, and now it's just amplified.
Here we have another weird philosophy: "if I've nothing to hide, I have not to worry about my privacy".
That was a strong discussion cause with my ex, he publicly talks about his health conditions and would like people to do it as well.He goes to toilet with open door, etc.
But, if you don't want or feel not to need it, doesn't mean privacy is useless.
And it's especially a huge problem for people with disability, as I am. I use AI and electronic glasses daily, why should I let them control my life without transparency? I should be aware of where that material goes, every time I talk to my glasses to have them translate or read something. My data are mine.

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Alex
@alex02@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon I mean... there are people on social media who thought they were entitled for me to answer their questions during internet discourse. Doesn't surprise me these days everyone thinks they're entitled to everything about someone. Like no, piss off and use that thing between your two ears.

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Alex
@alex02@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon it is also a generational thing like with my generation and gen alpha being too stupid to understand how social media works.

(other gens have people like this, but mostly in these two generations specifically from 14 year olds who somehow got more annoying than I remember)

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Elena Rossini ⁂
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon beautifully said Em 🥲

One of the many many reasons why I treasure the Fediverse is the feeling that people truly care about privacy and consent here. Thank you for speaking so eloquently about this societal problem

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Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@_elena Thank you, and I agree. The Fediverse is truly wonderful and unique for this. We need to extend this culture everywhere blobheartcat

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Poloniousmonk
@Uair@autistics.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

You might like this:

https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/EICAR-AV-Test-String-QR-Code-by-stevelord/43649350.NL9AC

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desert dirtbag abby version
@vapaad@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon it's wild how people will be anti police state and then turn around and life 360 their kids/partners

it's like training them to accept a police state ahhhh does ACAB mean anything anymore

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Whitney Loblaw
@stragu@mastodon.indie.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon yesterday I saw a thing called "read.ai" pop up in a Zoom meeting. Someone adds it to the meeting, it sits there as a participant, records and then does AI summarising of everything. The website says it uses your name and likeness. You have to send a message in the chat to "opt out", and can't object to it anonymously.

Edit: this third party tool is not Zoom-specific, it is also available for Google Meet and MS Teams.

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Scott P ✅
@saprentice@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@stragu @Em0nM4stodon

Re Zoom AI. Thanks for the heads up. If i see that I’ll immediately turn off my camera and microphone, and only communicate via the chat window. Bah.

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Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@stragu In many jurisdictions, this is illegal without collecting prior consent. It can even be considered a criminal offense in some locations and circumstances.

This is probably mentioned as a responsibility for the user in the application's Terms of Service, and this user hasn't been respecting it. Depending on the situation and location, you might be able to report this to your local Data Protection Authority.

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VulcanTourist
@VulcanTourist@autistics.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

Do meerkats need privacy? Do wolves in a pack need privacy? Do dolphins in a pod need privacy? I don't think they do. So the question becomes: why do humans alone, among social creatures, need privacy?

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wizzwizz4
@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@VulcanTourist @Em0nM4stodon Cats need privacy, as do squirrels. I doubt humans, cats and squirrels are the only ones. I think this is an interesting question, and I'd encourage you to investigate it, but "alone among social creatures" is deciding upon a conclusion before you've done the research: I would not encourage that.

(I'm using "does social play" as a proxy for "is a social creature", since the latter has many possible definitions.)

https://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/animals/article/squirrel-behaviour-play is about squirrels.

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George B
@gbargoud@masto.nyc replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Em0nM4stodon

I remember arguments about making the shutter sound mutable on a camera

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