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FediThing 🏳️‍🌈
@FediThing@social.chinwag.org  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Some Bluesky/ATproto fans keep insisting it's a federated network, but it's just not true.

Bluesky/ATproto is centralised, almost all users are on Bluesky corporation's infrastructure and there is no way to have independent infrastructure:

https://plus.flux.community/p/banning-controversy-reveals-blueskys

"Despite Fraser’s efforts to implement his own PDS, Relay, and App View, however, Blacksky still remains partially dependent upon Bluesky’s application server"

"Blacksky’s continued dependency on Bluesky came into focus on Sunday after a Blacksky user suddenly found himself unable to view his own posts on the alternative site."

(via @rysiek )

#Bluesky #ATproto

Banning controversy reveals Bluesky’s federation isn’t there yet

Bluesky’s protocol is so complicated that not even the biggest alternative network has figured out how to become independent
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@P__X@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@FediThing @rysiek

my litmus test:
does it have a *Chief* **Executive** ***Officer***?
Yes = Centralized

Bsky claiming to be decentralized is just a classic silicon valley lie to water down the concept to become just another empty buzzword.

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João Santos
@jmcs@social.jsantos.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@FediThing @rysiek the problem is that they are using federated to mean a different thing. They use "federated" to describe "distributed" while in the activitypub world "federated" to mean "decentralised".
And my understanding is that technically ATProto, the abstract protocol, _could_ support decentralisation, which Bluesky uses to muddle the waters and obfuscate that their implementation doesn't.

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