@tante Well it’s about time mainstream economists notice basically 3 companies passing the same money around holding up about 25% of the US economy!
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@tante Well it’s about time mainstream economists notice basically 3 companies passing the same money around holding up about 25% of the US economy!
If Nvidia is basically bankrolling the current AI bubble then it's going to pop 🌷🤪
@tante @hyc > Others remain more optimistic, with Goldman Sachs arguing that productivity gains thanks to AI adoption could ultimately boost the economy, according to a note to clients seen by Fortune.
What productivity gains? Can I see them?
Also before you report, read this: https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/followup-on-trusting-your-own-judgement/
@tante
Numbers don't lie, but liars are numerous.
@jstatepost oh numbers super duper often lie.
@tante that's not the point of AI, though. AI is a vanity project for billionaires who want other people to pay for the necessary compute power.
@tante The article talks about ”parabolic” and ”exponential”. Wish they would make up their mind. These are not synonymous. Parabolic growth is by definition polynomial, not exponential.
@tante Makes me wonder if Goldman Sachs have a bunch of shorts on AI stocks...
I am nodding along with this in agreement but let’s steel man this position by asking:
What if any self-serving motivations might cause those of us who do not think AI delivers the full value it promises to make such dire predictions?
Am I just annoyed by change? Offended by the aesthetic inferiority of AI products? Threatened by the way creative and intellectual work is cheapened by the notion that it might all be “easily automated”?
@futurebird @tante i personally don't want to live through a great depression and be entering my 50s as my dying country's healthcare system and related social infrastructure collapses. i think if there's even a small risk of that happening we should take dramatic action (eg regulate tech and tax billionaires out of existence), that by no coincidence would make the world much better anyway.
@futurebird @tante Intelligence doesn't exist.
(No, really; there is no better definition of "intelligence" than there is of "holy": this group of people use the word about that thing there.)
Someone selling something that will certainly transform the world when it comes newly into being could have an idea able to do that (steam engines, solar panels, etc.) but if they do, they can define it. They have something to measure.
The AI boosters have no definition or measure. It's pure scam.
The cheerleaders see these as bumps in the road to the future— kinks to be ironed out on the way to a new economic order.
I keep say “but it doesn’t really work!”
Will that matter?
@tante - It is draining a valuable natural resource: WATER.
@tante Other than translating (deepl) and generating pictures with 7 fingers and 3 feet and prohibiting imagery you really want versus what you get (stable diffusion web) it just cost a lot of money to make use of it and I'm really wondering where all that investment has been gone. I also lost total interest in coding with AI, automating desktop AI and general AI for businesses because the bill, waiting time or forcibly using the cloud is causing irritation and paranoia.
Guess who has put option on Nvidia!
@tante When Nvidia "invests" in an AI company which then takes that money and buys Nvidia chips, people should scream "what is happening here?"
@tante
Nice. I've been saying this for a few months now. Writing has been on the wall.
There are a fair few niche functions llms can do to improve worker efficiency. Exactly like VR goggles and bitcoin.
But to overlook everything LLMs are horrible at is to be either complicit in the scam, or an idiot.
@tante @savvykenya It is not surprising that people in finance don’t believe the hype. The claims thrown around by OpenAI are actually laughable from a tech standpoint. But excuse me while I don’t give a shit about the concerns from a bank that gave Trump money for decades 😆
The fallout to pension systems from the failure of Nortel & Blackberry...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Limited
Over-reliance on a few tech companies in a portfolio is a risk management nightmare
https://globalnews.ca/news/7275588/inside-the-chinese-military-attack-on-nortel/
https://blogs.blackberry.com/en/2025/07/ai-impersonation-attack-sovereign-security
https://www.wired.com/story/blackberry-india/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/nov/17/india-blackberry-monitored-emails
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/the-ongoing-battle-between-india-and-research-in-motion/
@tante AI will last, "just" the financial/investing bubble will collapse.
@tante Well it’s about time mainstream economists notice basically 3 companies passing the same money around holding up about 25% of the US economy!
@gimulnautti @tante I saw this meme few days ago …
#nvidia #oracle #OpenAI #AI
#ecocide #AI_is_ecocide
[edited to add hashtags]
Everybody knows it is a bubble.
But, as long as the bubble produces profits in the stock market, there is no reason to stop.
@tante You didn't expect Deutsche Bank to be late to the party?
Edit: Where were you 2008?
@tante
"Especially alarming is the amount of money the AI industry would need to actually make to justify all its spending."
This.
While in the past they were typically still doing stupid things when most others had already stopped.
Es ist brandgefährlich, wenn die Bubble platzt. Sie können sie militärisch am Leben halten
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