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Molly White
@molly0xfff@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Ashley Rindsberg and Fox News are furious at Wikipedia editors for “attacking” Charlie Kirk by... listing the viewpoints he prominently and publicly advocated

#USpol#USpolitics

The attack continues further down in the Kirk article’s lead paragraphs, where editors said Kirk was controversial due to his "opposition to gun control, abortion, and LGBTQ rights; his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr.; and his promotion of Christian nationalism, COVID-19 misinformation, the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and false claims of electoral fraud in 2020."

COMPLETE COVERAGE OF CHARLIE KIRK

The framing ensures that anyone searching for Kirk after his murder is met with a narrative designed to discredit him.
The attack continues further down in the Kirk article’s lead paragraphs, where editors said Kirk was controversial due to his "opposition to gun control, abortion, and LGBTQ rights; his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr.; and his promotion of Christian nationalism, COVID-19 misinformation, the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and false claims of electoral fraud in 2020." COMPLETE COVERAGE OF CHARLIE KIRK The framing ensures that anyone searching for Kirk after his murder is met with a narrative designed to discredit him.
The attack continues further down in the Kirk article’s lead paragraphs, where editors said Kirk was controversial due to his "opposition to gun control, abortion, and LGBTQ rights; his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr.; and his promotion of Christian nationalism, COVID-19 misinformation, the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and false claims of electoral fraud in 2020." COMPLETE COVERAGE OF CHARLIE KIRK The framing ensures that anyone searching for Kirk after his murder is met with a narrative designed to discredit him.
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Allan Svelmøe Hansen
@svelmoe@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span molly0xfff Of course - repeating what they say is considered attacking them.
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Simon Zerafa
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span molly0xfff

If the truth hurts then you probably need to adjust your viewpoint rather than trying to discredit the messenger 😟🤷‍♂️

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Frank Heijkamp
@alterelefant@mastodontech.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span molly0xfff Right extremists: "Please don't quote us, it makes us look bad."
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samiamsam
@samiamsam@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span molly0xfff

how dare you quote him

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Parade du Grotesque 💀
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span molly0xfff

Another excuse to censor Wikipedia in the US.

If I was the Wikipedia Foundation, I would start looking for solutions to move to Europe...

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Erebus
@Erebus_Amauro@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span molly0xfff And thats why those turds doesn't want anything remotely similar to Wikipedia.
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Alan Miller :verified_paw: 🇺🇦
@fencepost@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff seems only fair that Fox News be excoriated for sullying Kirk's legacy by disrespecting everything he believed in.
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Sashin
@sashin@veganism.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff These people never had a sense of shame and were always like this. I actually hate them.
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Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 
@jstatepost@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff
Eff 'em all back to where they came from, Molly.
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NONE ⁂ :heart_bisexual:
@NONE@tkz.one replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

"How dare you to tell the truth about him?!"

@span molly0xfff

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Linux Is Best
@Linux@mastodon.cr replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff

I’m one day ahead of you.

Yesterday, just before starting my vacation, I learned that there’s an active effort to influence or tailor Charlie Kirk’s Wikipedia page.

https://mastodon.cr/@Linux/115192525802496074

I won’t have any further insight for the next three weeks (as I’m on vacation), but please keep an eye on it. They’re likely to circle back to this.

#Wikipedia

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Ivan Sagalaev :flag_wbw:
@isagalaev@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff they really do rely on people forgetting things and relying on them for what to think instead.
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WorldTravelerAll7
@WorldTravelerAll7@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff

i say this so often, i need to make a meme for it

Nothing #Cancervatives or #Repugnicans say has meaning or value. it is 𝙖𝙡𝙬𝙖𝙮𝙨 in bad faith. Always

here's a meme that i did make that demonstrates this

Faux State TV got more upset at a brown man for wearing a tan suit than at an orange man for illegally deporting & imprisoning a brown man

fake news logo: How dare you call us racist! We are Fauxraged!

worldtravelerall7 logo in corner
Faux State TV got more upset at a brown man for wearing a tan suit than at an orange man for illegally deporting & imprisoning a brown man fake news logo: How dare you call us racist! We are Fauxraged! worldtravelerall7 logo in corner
Faux State TV got more upset at a brown man for wearing a tan suit than at an orange man for illegally deporting & imprisoning a brown man fake news logo: How dare you call us racist! We are Fauxraged! worldtravelerall7 logo in corner
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John Mark :blobcatverified: ☑️
@johnmark@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff literal lol...

"We believe in free speech and journalistic integrity"

"No no not like that"

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Mad Dog Ace Run
@BluesHarp@musicians.today replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff
Not to mention the immediate cancel culture that has ensued. The same cancel culture that the right wingers supposedly hate...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/13/charlie-kirk-shooting-people-fired-social-media
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Mad Dog Ace Run
@BluesHarp@musicians.today replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span molly0xfff
Yeah. His words are all there for everyone to see. But the right wing folks don't want us to see them or think about them. Just bow down, don't do any critical thinking, and worship the guy...

Nope. Not happening. He said these things...

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Quark Maker
@QuarkMaker@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff “Oh what a shame.”
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Barry Cook
@bazcook@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff - Kinda hard to make him out to be a Martyr when he’s clearly stated that he’s a sexist, racist and misogynistic - to name but three.
So much that MAGAs celebrate, but hardly going to help the cause.
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Spirit
@Spirit@cybernetic.monster replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff it's going to be a wild ride for corrections... ChatGPT and the desperate scramble to sanitize his legacy.
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@Gengeros why did you cite nonexistent sources?
I've removed four at this point.
« https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310911953 (=
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310915955 2
as far as i can tell none of them ever existed?
Scaledish! Talkish? Statish(3.|08:22,12
September 2025 (UTC)
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Sorry that was chatGPT when | try to format
these things. SOmetimes it creates non-existant
links Gengeros (talk) 08:49, 12 September 2025
(UTC)
4 Reply @Gengeros why did you cite nonexistent sources? I've removed four at this point. « https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310911953 (= * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310915955 2 as far as i can tell none of them ever existed? Scaledish! Talkish? Statish(3.|08:22,12 September 2025 (UTC) 4 Reply Sorry that was chatGPT when | try to format these things. SOmetimes it creates non-existant links Gengeros (talk) 08:49, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
4 Reply @Gengeros why did you cite nonexistent sources? I've removed four at this point. « https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310911953 (= * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310915955 2 as far as i can tell none of them ever existed? Scaledish! Talkish? Statish(3.|08:22,12 September 2025 (UTC) 4 Reply Sorry that was chatGPT when | try to format these things. SOmetimes it creates non-existant links Gengeros (talk) 08:49, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
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Dennis Mansell
@dennmans@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff so interesting that they acknowledge that those views are discrediting, whilst also seeming to hold those views.
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Klaus Frank
@agowa338@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff

Surprise, people hate it when #wikipedia editors have the audacity to prevent them from rewriting history afterwards.
Can't be that #wikipedia editors are the reason you can't just remove the things you don't like to fit your narrative of victim framing some shithead...

https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/115197419420556867

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Dave Rahardja
@drahardja@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff TIL “discrediting” and “crediting” are the same thing.
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Sensitivityi
@sensitivityi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff a privileged hate whisperer, effectively organizing vectors of (mostly) suppressed rage and shame into channels of direct and indirect violence up to and including killings.
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Sensitivityi
@sensitivityi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff a dangerous, psychopathic racist
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Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death
@dsmdexter@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff
Weird that they think their core beliefs would be discrediting...
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Aaron Hasty
@ahasty@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff Remember to "mourn him correctly" or face the consequence of having hundreds accost your employer until you can no longer work. They want people who don't view him as a Saint, Martyr, and as good as Christ himself to be removed from society, deported and striped of freedoms. Some even calling for those who criticize him to be deported.

This is where we are as a country and I am sicked by it.

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Rob Kay
@Djo85@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff

Yooooouuuu...

and your lying eyes...

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Eric Likness
@carpetbomberz@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff I want to personally bow my head in honor of the ALL editors whose work is visible on that page. On the day OF,... there it was. Evidence all through, blow, by blow. Dates, appearances, publications.

The record is the record. These actions existed, exist now.

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I can’t believe its not @twcau
@twcau@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff I love how RWNJ’s and associated media lose their minds over a site that… prides itself on verifiable facts and statements.
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Arena Cops 🇺🇦✌
@ArenaCops@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff Such people are obviously too weak for the truth & too easy to be bought to spread comfortable lies easily consumable by the gullibles they are deceiving on order of their bribers.
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Jordi and 1001 Opossums
@Jorsh@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff

Spoiler alert: HE designed the narrative.

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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff Classic conservatism. They confuse freedom of speech with speech free of consequences, because from a conservative worldview their in-group should be free from consequences.

That’s why so-called ”free speech champions” are now calling for people to NOT hear the speech & viewpoints their idol and example. (And they don’t think that’s counterindicative!)

The problem is that the killer was found to be one of their own, and there can’t be consequences for the in-group.

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Doug
@duhdugg@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff I'm sure there are no left-wing activists involved in that edit history 🙄

Charlie consistently argued that unborn babies are deserving of human rights. Interesting that this viewpoint is excluded entirely from the abortion section.

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Linus Gasser
@ligasser@social.epfl.ch replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff I got into an argument yesterday because I asked a man politely to not smoke in front of the open door of the bus, and please let me in, as he was standing in front of the door.

He complained I didn't respect him.

But the reality is that he wanted me to just shut up and accept his behavior without comments.

Respect means discussing the good and the bad, calmly, respecting boundaries, and accepting potential shortcomings of one's actions.

Which is what Wikipedia does.

Respect!

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HellPie (HellPride)
@hellpie@raru.re replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff you're making it very hard to justify having a statue of him in every major city and a wing of the white house named after him and that is very very unfair to a man that "did politics the right way", as the publication that did anti-iraq propaganda the right way wrote about him.
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Kees N ✅
@knu@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff
There are times conservatives provide the meme texts by themselves, for free.
Message by @pjlago.bsky.social at 12 sept 2025 21:30

Text: "I hope she stretched before that flip flop."

Citing two messages:

[BEFORE learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:]

@RepNancyMace texts:

Time to bring back the death penalty.
9:29 PM - 9/10/25

[AFTER learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:]

@RepNancyMace texts:

We know Charlie Kirk would want us to pray for such an evil, and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ.

We will try to do the same.
10:36 AM - 9/12/25
Message by @pjlago.bsky.social at 12 sept 2025 21:30 Text: "I hope she stretched before that flip flop." Citing two messages: [BEFORE learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:] @RepNancyMace texts: Time to bring back the death penalty. 9:29 PM - 9/10/25 [AFTER learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:] @RepNancyMace texts: We know Charlie Kirk would want us to pray for such an evil, and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ. We will try to do the same. 10:36 AM - 9/12/25
Message by @pjlago.bsky.social at 12 sept 2025 21:30 Text: "I hope she stretched before that flip flop." Citing two messages: [BEFORE learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:] @RepNancyMace texts: Time to bring back the death penalty. 9:29 PM - 9/10/25 [AFTER learning the shooter was a cisgender far-right man:] @RepNancyMace texts: We know Charlie Kirk would want us to pray for such an evil, and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ. We will try to do the same. 10:36 AM - 9/12/25
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lin11c
@lin11c@toad.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff
This is why "conservatives" attack Wikipedia. It has the truth and the facts and they can't manipulate it. It must be protected at all costs. This is simply a list of things Kirk has espoused and there is tons of evidence of it out there. He was a hateful prick. Did he just do it for money? Who knows.
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Nomdeb
@nomdeb@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff oh. So they DO agree that Kirk‘s own words and positions are hateful and shameful. Even though they can no bring themselves to admit to themselves that those are exactly the things he has said.
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crazyeddie
@crazyeddie@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff What SHOULD he be credited for then?

Like what is the discredit? This WAS his credit. He weaseled 12M out of it.

I know, "He died." But, "We all die," so what kind of credit is that?

That would be an appropriate wikipedia page actually. "Charlie Kirk: He died."

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BoneHouseWasps🔶🇬🇧🇪🇺
@BonehouseWasps@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff You can't speak ill of the dead. Even if you're the one who's dead.
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arestelle
@arestelle@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff truth is their enemy
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The Lack Thereof :v_bi:
@lackthereof@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff
Remember Charlie Kirk not as his lived, but as millions of Facebook grandparents who briefly scrolled past his content believe he lived
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Matt Mascarenhas
@miblo@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff In my peripheral view it looks just like they're trying to make the martyr of this fella that they couldn't of Donald Trump following the latter being shot only in the ear.
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Martin Vermeer FCD
@martinvermeer@fediscience.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgZtdmyKlI

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might_be_a_robot :sterntastatur: :gopnik_implant:
@BustaMarx@corteximplant.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff I have never seen anything like the 72-hour public rehabilitation of someone in the public media that we've just witnessed. The "comply-in-advance" crew has outdone themselves.
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Joey de Villa 🪗
@AccordionGuy@mastodon.cloud replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
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Yoko's Asterisk 🏳️‍⚧
@charliejane@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff How DARE Wikipedia be accurate and factual???
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mark
@ATLeagle@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@molly0xfff wonderful. This isn't discrediting at all, it is absolutely giving him credit for what he did to get famous.
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