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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

"... the point of this [enshittification] analysis isn't merely to give you a more technically-informed way to feel demoralised and furious about the state of the digital world. I wrote this book to propose a cure."

#CoryDoctorow, #Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It, 2025

https://craphound.com/podcast/2025/08/28/enshittification-episode-500/

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#podcasts #books

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

"We can make a new, good internet. One that's fit for human thriving. We can create the digital nervous system we need to connect and coordinate us, through a 21st century haunted by climate collapse, genocide, authoritarianism, and economic chaos. We can create enshittification-resistant infrastructure for a new, good, world."

#CoryDoctorow, #Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It, 2025

https://craphound.com/podcast/2025/08/28/enshittification-episode-500/

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mike805
@mike805@noc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span strypey His cure is all political change. Not going to happen.

The people responsible for this own the entire political system. The total downfall of the USA is far more likely than any reform of the DMCA and similar laws.

What we need are methods to personally exit from as much of this as possible. This society is not going to get any better.

Tor and BitTorrent show the way. They have both survived in a hostile environment for 20+ years.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span mike805
> His cure is all political change

Not true. Anti-monopoly regulation is one of 4 anti-enshittifying forces he identifies, the others being labour organising, interop, and the one you point to, self-help. Which we've all been doing for decades and its clearly not enough by itself.

> Not going to happen

That's a profoundly US-centric claim. Elsewhere in the world, regulation of DataFarmers is already happening;

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_en

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mike805
@mike805@noc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span strypey He is calling for collective action, when the enemies have spent the last few decades cutting off the means of doing so. Labor organizing is politics, and the DMCA has basically banned interop.

Elsewhere in the world, regulation is mainly aimed at shutting down childrens' freedom of speech and forcing adults to present ID to speak.

Which, if it has the accidental effect of destroying commercial social media, might be good.

Noncommercial low bandwidth social media is cheap to run.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

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@span mike805
> Labor organizing is politics

Unless you limit your definition of "politics" to lobbying for legislation, everything is politics, including walkaway tactics.

> Outside the USA, regulation is mainly aimed at shutting down childrens' freedom of speech and forcing adults to present ID to speak

False dichotomy much? These regressive laws are being pushed just as much inside the US, and I gave an example of a significant piece of legislation that does nothing of the sort.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

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@span mike805
> DMCA has basically banned interop

... and DMA mandates it. There's a showdown coming, and although it may not look like it from inside the US, the DataFarmers are not guaranteed to win.

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