“What’s actually going to happen is rich people are going to use AI to replace workers,” Hinton said. “It’s going to create massive unemployment and a huge rise in profits. It will make a few people much richer and most people poorer. That’s not AI’s fault, that is the capitalist system.”
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@yogthos
Remember when Hinton predicted the end of medical imagery professionals?
Remember when Hinton predicted the end of medical imagery professionals?
With all respect I have for science and academics, they usually make poor predictions outside their domain of exxpertise.
@gdupont you're focusing on the wrong thing here
@yogthos Not sure.
I'm focussing on being very doubtful with regard to experts in one domain making prediction in another.
Especially when said expert has been shown to be wrong more than right in such predictions (and that he has some strong incentives to keep the hype).
Looking back in history, technological breakthrough have been transformative for the job market, but usually new jobs are created while others disappear.
@gdupont Hinton stating that capitalist relations are the underlying problem as opposed to automation is an obvious fact that's not up for serious debate.
The purpose of work under capitalism is to create value for people who own capital with any social benefit being strictly incidental.
In a sane society, more automation would mean more free time for people to enjoy their lives as opposed to something to be feared.
@yogthos
Totally aligned on the vision (and consequences) of capitalist system.
Totally aligned on the vision (and consequences) of capitalist system.
Hinton can be right on these observations while being wrong on the predictions.
Sorry if I'm not very clear. My point is specifically on his predictions (not the causes and rationales that make him do these predictions).
@gdupont yeah I don't think his predictions are that interesting, it's the acknowledgement that capitalism being a problem that's laudable.
@yogthos hm... Isn't that the message since 2023? Millions of workers will lose their jobs to AI at the end of the year?
At this point, it sounds more like a vague promise to keep the investors excited and the insane flow of cash running.. at least to me.
Just like the self driving cars we all got in 2019...
At this point, it sounds more like a vague promise to keep the investors excited and the insane flow of cash running.. at least to me.
Just like the self driving cars we all got in 2019...
@Beeen I mean automation is very much a thing that's happening. Regardless of whether the pace of automation is meeting expectations or not, his core point is entirely correct.
The problem isn't with job losses but with the capitalist system that requires people to do work for the sake of work. In a sane society automation would be celebrated because it would mean people having more free time to enjoy their lives.
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