So what are everyone’s excuses for Tim Cook’s behavior this time?
Wake up. He’s an overt Trump supporter, and has been the entire time.
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@marcoarment honestly so embarrassing seeing people defend him.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck... It's only doing so to protect apple's stock? Huh
@marcoarment now we know why he decided to sever...
@marcoarment I find that hard to believe. The citizens of the US elected Trump. Cook, being good at GR, is doing what he finds necessary to preserve Apple's business.
To me, this says more about the US and its government than Tim.
@marcoarment better to join the navy than to be a pirate
@marcoarment I *can't* wait for rhe upcoming ATP episode. 🍿
@marcoarment The number of people replying to you defending bribes as the cost of doing business actually shocks me.
@marcoarment Fun fact (aka irony): I made this sticker with SF Symbols.
@marcoarment I'd been using Apple hardware since 1993 and made the decision to exit the Apple ecosystem back in February and I'm glad I did. Anyone can do it. Same for Google and Amazon. Didn't use Microsoft.
Computing is entirely possible without them. It takes a bit of effort to detangle from iCloud, etc but it's well worth it.
GNU/Linux is much better than I'd previously thought. It's actually been fantastic.
@marcoarment c’mon. This gratuitous little gift and the investment announcement got them exempted from tariffs that would have cost the company a lot more. 🤷🏻♂️
@marcoarment it's pretty bad isn't it? An unfortunate and pathetic display from the head of a company that is supposed to stand for practically everything Trump despises.
But alas, in America, 💰 is the religion that sits above everything else.
@marcoarment I think he doesn’t support anything other than his bottom line
@marcoarment This is the new normal for, get used to it. It isn't just Apple it's any company that wants to survive.
@marcoarment It’s either that or the company gets slapped with a ton of tariffs. What’s your solution to tackling that issue? Expect everybody to pay more for iPhones because their CEO found it beneath him to present a plaque to Trump?
@marcoarment it's not just Cook, it's Apple. I mean the gift has a giant Apple logo on it.
@marcoarment you’re like one of those naive people who believe ads. Cool was a Biden “supporter”. Now he’s a Trump “supporter”. It’s just business.
@marcoarment i’m no Tim Cook booster but I’ll echo what at least one other person has said in the thread: in an economy that prioritises returns to shareholders, Cook has no choice. Particularly since under Trump, the US has become a bit of a mafia-state. If Cook doesn’t do it, the Board of Directors would sack him and replace him with someone who will.
@marcoarment I'm old enough to remember communism in my country (Poland). This gives me vibes of how adults would act in public to avoid trouble. You have to face it, the US is now run by an autocrat who's old and senile and faces no consequences for his actions.
If your company was big enough to get his attention and he said he would ruin you on a whim, what would you do? And I do mean ruin. If Trump keeps crazy tarrifs on China AND India, iPhones are going to cost 50% more in the US.
If your company was big enough to get his attention and he said he would ruin you on a whim, what would you do? And I do mean ruin. If Trump keeps crazy tarrifs on China AND India, iPhones are going to cost 50% more in the US.
@marcoarment
„What would Steve Jobs have done?“ is usually a stupid argument. Not this time. Steve would never have debased himself like this.
„What would Steve Jobs have done?“ is usually a stupid argument. Not this time. Steve would never have debased himself like this.
@marcoarment The internet is an amazing place. I’m instantly surrounded by the bravest CEOs of multi trillion dollar companies. People who know no fear as their company and employees are targeted by arguably the most powerful autocrat in the world.
I’d like to think I’d’ve made a different call in this scenario. But limber up before making the reach that he is a full on Trump supporter.
🕊️ I try not to tell anyone how to feel. Anger is a right. And I suppose we should all be more angry.
@moarjava @marcoarment He's supported Trump with a million dollar donation. He is a Trump supporter.
Whether he feels good about that in his heart, or whether there are circumstances beyond his control, none of us can know. But we do know that he is a Trump supporter.
@marcoarment Tim Cook is a complete fucker just like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Thiel, and every other #billionaire
If billionaires were ethical they would be #millionaires
It's obscene.
Being gay obviously doesn't innoculate anyone from being a craven, greedy, cowardly asshole.
@marcoarment He’s pandering to get the company tariff and regulatory favor. He CLEARLY knows Trump’s a nutter. That gift is soaked in empty sycophancy Trump will fall for hook, line and sinker. A lot of people would suffer if Cook didn’t play the game. U.S. including us even if we could afford a 50% markup from tariffs, most people can’t. Pension funds can’t afford AAPL tanking because Tim makes a show of rebellion.
@marcoarment I’m from the same county in Alabama as Cook. Went to the same college too… I’m not remotely surprised he’s a Trumper. And it’s so depressing.
@marcoarment what happened now?
@marcoarment It’s subtle mockery. “Guys, make me the cheesiest gold trophy we can get away with.” And put a listening device in it.
@marcoarment
BUT THE SHAREHOLDER VALUE MARCO
@marcoarment Apple fanboys and most Apple platform developers will simply look the other way, as usual.
@marcoarment ohgawd what did he do now?
@marcoarment this is how you have to run a business in an authoritarian regime. Nothing more, nothing less.
@marcoarment It’s embarrassing is what it is. I’m wearing a top with the Apple logo on it as I type. May as well start wearing a MAGA cap. Make Apple Great Again.
@marcoarment god, it’s getting so embarrassing to be an Apple user.
@marcoarment
The excuses are far worse than reality, in my opinion. If he's cozying up to like ... ensure supply chains, or something, that is infinitely more execrable than his actions reflecting his actual politics.
@marcoarment exactly marco. He’s been CEO longer than Steve was, he could invoke succession today and leave this situation to someone else. He’s staying because he wants this.
@marcoarment Why single him out, the fact is that majority of Americans are quiet/closeted supporters
@marcoarment I dunno if that’s true. It would be incongruous given his clearly genuine commitment to accessibility and environmental benefits. This episode is fucking embarrassing though.
@marcoarment he thinks he is saving the company. It’s misguided, but that’s what it is
@marcoarment this is the saddest thing I’ve ever seen. This is below Elon.
@marcoarment
I really hate parsing this sort of shit, but would you categorize him on the same level as, say, Musk, Thiel, Bezos, or Zuckerberg?
I don't see him as a fascist ideologue, but more of a shameless capitalist who is willing to disgrace himself if he thinks it will help the business.
This is not meant as a defense or justification. I have zero respect for anyone who prioritizes wealth over human dignity.
@marcoarment He just wants iPhones to be exempt from tariffs. He would suffer many humiliations to make that happen.
@marcoarment This is so much funnier when you remember how guarded Tim Cook is about displaying *any preference*. We don’t even know what his favorite Watch band is, but I guess we now know who his favorite president is. Careful what you wish for I guess. Monkey’s paw and all that.
@marcoarment no no no, he’s forced to do it you see. For the greater good of *checks notes* stock prices.
I don’t know entirely how I’m going to disentangle from the ecosystem, but this is a tipping point for me. I at least won’t be buying any new Apple hardware as long as Cook is CEO.
@marcoarment And yet Trump is only his second-favorite dictator.
@marcoarment By action if not by choice.
@marcoarment IF he's not, he's certainly doing a fine imitation of one.
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