Been looking at Kagi for search which isn't bad but I don't want or need all the LLM stuff they put everywhere.
Is there a comparable (potentially also paid) search engine that does not spend their income building another LLM based browser or whatever?
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@tante
MetaGer would be an option... In a few months, ‘Nolm’ will also be available as a search engine project and will complete MetaGer. In general, our approach is that there should still be alternatives to LLM/ KI-based search options.
MetaGer would be an option... In a few months, ‘Nolm’ will also be available as a search engine project and will complete MetaGer. In general, our approach is that there should still be alternatives to LLM/ KI-based search options.
@tante are they doing that much, actually? I was under the impression they shipped a veneer for existing LLM's so that people who actually believe they want that can do so in a privacy-friendly way
@tante
As a Kagi paid user...
I've not been subjected to any Counterfeit Cognizance...
I simply don't invoke any of those options.
Hasn't been a problem.
🤷♂️🤷♂️
@tante I have a private YaCy instance. Whenever I come across something interesting, I'll index it. I also have a large org roam knowledge base to search in, for stuff I played with, or needed before. This includes recipes, medicine info sheets, everything.
If I can't find what I need in the either, I turn to a handful of sites (wikipedia, codeberg, etc). If I still can't find it, I ask on fedi.
Not the fastest, nor most efficient, but mighty convenient with very good results.
@tante @jeeynet did a great compilation job (unfortunately in french, but the table should be understandable nonetheless)
https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/114780358368543938
There’s also this by Tuta, but I’m not overly convinced by their picks.
https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-leave-google-gmail#alternative-search-engines-to-google
@tante what about DuckDuckGo but you just turn off the LLM auto-responses?
@urlyman @tante actually, I think they built their own engine. 🤷♂️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo?wprov=sfti1#Source_code
@boor I take your point about how results get ranked (perhaps) but still the search results are an amalgamation of indexed sources.
The bit at the end here was what I was recalling:
“DuckDuckGo stopped showing results, indicating that Bing provided a substantial portion of DuckDuckGo's results.”
@tante quite happy with leta from mullvad: https://leta.mullvad.net/
Similar to what startpage used to be 😌
Similar to what startpage used to be 😌
@tantehttps://www.ecosia.org/ hasn’t been pissing me off since I set it as default search provider in firefox on my machines…
