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Sarah Jamie Lewis
Sarah Jamie Lewis
@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

The overhead of disabling every single AI-first change in Firefox is already starting to weigh on firefox-forks.

My view on this hasn't really shifted in the last few months: unless an existing organization, with strong principles, steps forwards and commits to a hard fork I don't really see a future for Firefox.

(I think there are probably only 1-2 orgs with the combination of experience / maturity to actually pull that off, and none of them seem to be even considering that kind of future)

uebelhacker
uebelhacker
@uebelhacker@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@sarahjamielewis not sure whether #firefox forks like in @iode's #iodéOS can also offer "AI disable by default" or remove any #AI code, but it seems a legitimite way to go. Also, it will be an #EU country to handle such modifications. #France #digitalsouvereignity

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iodé Browser

iodé browser is based on Firefox with #telemetry disabled, trackers removed, and alternative search engines: #Qwant (default), #Brave, #Ecosia, #Metager, Qwant light, #Startpage and several #Searx instances.
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https://iode.tech/iodeos/

iodé

iodéOS - iodé

Privacy-friendly selection of apps We have preinstalled for you a selection of privacy-friendly apps, listed below. It is to be noted that we also have made the uninstallation of preinstalled apps possible with iodéOS! iodé The place to control and visualize the data transmissions from your phone. From here you can: News The News app ... Read more
https://social.tchncs.de/tags/iod%C3%A9OS
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tante
tante
@tante@tldr.nettime.org  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Been looking at Kagi for search which isn't bad but I don't want or need all the LLM stuff they put everywhere.
Is there a comparable (potentially also paid) search engine that does not spend their income building another LLM based browser or whatever?

Sandra Parsick
Sandra Parsick
@sparsick@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@tante currently I'm trying #metager. No LLM what I can see and I'm fine with the search result. You have to pay for search token
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All Europeans 🇪🇺
All Europeans 🇪🇺
@ueeu@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago

European search engines 🔎

Czech Republic 🇨🇿
#Seznamczhttps://www.seznam.cz

France 🇫🇷
#Qwanthttps://www.qwant.com
#Karmahttps://karmasearch.org
#Lilohttps://www.lilo.org
#ZoTophttps://zotop.fr

Germany 🇩🇪

#Ecosiahttps://www.ecosia.org
#Metagerhttps://metager.org
#Fireballhttps://fireball.com
#Ghosteryhttps://ghosterysearch.com
#GoodSearchhttps://good-search.org
#Monocleshttps://monocles.eu

Scandinavia 🇸🇪 🇩🇰
#Letahttps://leta.mullvad.net
#Stracthttps://stract.com
#Marginaliahttps://marginalia-search.com

Switzerland 🇨🇭
#Swisscowshttps://www.swisscows.com
#Etoolshttps://www.etools.ch

UK 🇬🇧
#Mojeekhttps://www.mojeek.com
#Oscobohttps://www.oscobo.com

#SearchEngine#EuropeanAlternatives#BuyEuropean#BuyFromEU

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