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@bortzmeyer I was just looking, yes, and
{"position": 17, "domain_name": "example.com", "date": "2025-07-11"}
And the list is unbelievable: no porn!
@bortzmeyer @jpmens this one is easy to explain:
browsers, malware, and spyware bypassing system preferences with DoH, in order to serve up ads, intrusively track, and surveil users without knowledge or consent.
browsers, malware, and spyware bypassing system preferences with DoH, in order to serve up ads, intrusively track, and surveil users without knowledge or consent.
DoH is harmful to the Internet and harmful to society.
@rootwyrm @jpmens This is of course absurd.
1) DoT has almost the same properties (but people keep FUDing about DoH only)
2) malware can implement its own name resolution system, whether or not DoH exists.
3) As long as there are networks which block port 53 and force going through their resolver, we'll need DoT and DoH.
@bortzmeyer @jpmens
1) Oh, DoT is it's whole own OTHER topic. With lots of 'srsly?!' But >95% of users don't know what a DNS server *is*. But they know DoH from Mozilla and NaziFlare marketing.
1) Oh, DoT is it's whole own OTHER topic. With lots of 'srsly?!' But >95% of users don't know what a DNS server *is*. But they know DoH from Mozilla and NaziFlare marketing.
2) So your stance is that a piece of software which bypasses user *and* administrator control in order to surveil or upload data is not malicious?
Example: Firefox defaults!
3) If you have the capability to block 53 and 853, you can just as easily block DoH. DoH is ineffective for fascist bypass.
@bortzmeyer @rootwyrm counterpoint: if we block outbound 53 and force our resolver, you have no business bypassing that
@bortzmeyer @jpmens maybe Android's "private DNS" feature
@bortzmeyer @jpmens probably not people but devices. Wasn't the Chromecast somehow hardcoded to Google DNS? Maybe that's also querying that to fire out if the domain is hijacked or not
@bortzmeyer I'm a bit surprised Quad9 doesn't return 9.9.9.9 for a query to dns[.]google[.]com
@bortzmeyer @jpmens @afnic
If that domain is in the context of hamradio, which I believe it is, then ON is Belgium :)
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