#illumos #omnios is absolutely incredible. The system is very well designed IMO, I had already experienced the more cohesively designed #BSD but here it feels a bit *more* (although quite similar in some aspects to #freebsd of course).

Linux feels like a duct-taped amalgamation of random ideas, don't get me wrong I love Linux and all it represents, but it's a system that has been grown in any direction.

With Illumos instead it feels like you have orthogonal powerful building blocks you can compose into something greater than the sum of its parts. #zfs #dtrace #zones #crossbow it all works beautifully, both on their own and together.

After seeing how virtualized networking can be done in solaris, the docker networking stack feels so sad in comparison.

So far I'm very impressed.

#illumos #omnios is absolutely incredible. The system is very well designed IMO, I had already experienced the more cohesively designed #BSD but here it feels a bit *more* (although quite similar in some aspects to #freebsd of course).

Linux feels like a duct-taped amalgamation of random ideas, don't get me wrong I love Linux and all it represents, but it's a system that has been grown in any direction.

With Illumos instead it feels like you have orthogonal powerful building blocks you can compose into something greater than the sum of its parts. #zfs #dtrace #zones #crossbow it all works beautifully, both on their own and together.

After seeing how virtualized networking can be done in solaris, the docker networking stack feels so sad in comparison.

So far I'm very impressed.

as always, highly depends on your personal needs. I'm a huge Proxmox fan, but there're of course several different cool solutions. Next to #Proxmox, I also often use #incus [0] in personal labs but I'm also a huge fan of #XCPng with #Orechstra. #SuseHarvester 's [2] approach is also a great solution (similar to #Platform9) if you want to go into the modern world (in the end, they're also using KVM). If it's just single node, I really would also consider #bhyve on #FreeBSD (maybe even via #ClonOS / #cbsd).

[0]: https://gyptazy.com/incus-for-containers-and-vms-a-powerful-proxmox-alternative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-build-a-cluster/
[1]: https://gyptazy.com/blog/xcpng-a-more-professional-alternative-to-proxmox-based-on-xen/
[2]: https://gyptazy.com/blog/harvester-a-more-modern-alternative-to-proxmox/


@ironicbadger@techhub.social

a small addition - #OmniOS also support #bhyve and has a great support for virtualization stacks

@gyptazy @ironicbadger

The recording of the August 21st, 2025 #bhyve Production User Call is up:

https://youtu.be/ULVeRFK6KXg

We discussed an #OmniOS virtue-console hot fix, virtio-net, if_tap and if_tun improvements, Intel ARC GPU Pass-Through the EDK2 update under review, virtio-fs, new Sylve features with a deep-dive into Windows VM network performance, CPU topologies, and more!

"Don't forget to slam those Like and Subscribe buttons."

The recording of the August 21st, 2025 #bhyve Production User Call is up:

https://youtu.be/ULVeRFK6KXg

We discussed an #OmniOS virtue-console hot fix, virtio-net, if_tap and if_tun improvements, Intel ARC GPU Pass-Through the EDK2 update under review, virtio-fs, new Sylve features with a deep-dive into Windows VM network performance, CPU topologies, and more!

"Don't forget to slam those Like and Subscribe buttons."

alcinnz
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I think it's time to write an #introduction for this account as well!

I'm Stefano Marinelli, Barista of the illumos Cafe and the BSD Cafe. I'm a technology and open source enthusiast, a strong advocate for #OwnYourData, and against computer monoculture, even when it comes to open source solutions.

I've been active in the #Fediverse for years and am a firm believer in it. I decided to found this Cafe to bring the positive spirit of the BSD Cafe to curious and passionate users of #illumos based operating systems (#OmniOS, #SmartOS, #Tribblix, #OpenIndiana, etc.).

I'll mainly use this account for content related to this instance and illumos-based operating systems, while my account at the BSD Cafe - @stefano@bsd.cafe - remains my primary one.

For more information about the illumos Cafe, you can read the introductory post here: https://it-notes.dragas.net/2025/08/18/introducing-the-illumos-cafe/

#illumosCafe#BSDCafe