Discussion
Loading...

Discussion

  • About
  • Code of conduct
  • Privacy
  • Users
  • Instances
  • About Bonfire
Federation Bot
@Federation_Bot  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Mastodon gGmbH has just issued a new blogpost:

➡️ https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/the-future-is-ours-to-build-together

Some highlights:

- Eugen has stepped down as head, his replacement is @mellifluousbox (Eugen will continue as an advisor)

- Mastodon gGmbH and its US-based 501(c)(3) intend to transition to a Belgian non-profit and transfer their assets there

- Eugen has sold his Mastodon-related assets (including the trademark) to the 501(c)(3) for €1 million, these will eventually be transferred to the Belgian non-profit

#Mastodon

  • Copy link
  • Flag this post
  • Block
Toni :mastodon:
@coloco@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips Curiosamente en join mastodn siempre salia priemera la red de gargron, .social...y claro, de descentralizacion no mucha cuando haces que tu server sea el primero en la lista y sabiendo que no es bueno centralizar en un servidor para el bien del #fediverse , gargron seguía teniendo registros abiertos y ampliando sus servers en vez de derivarlos a otros. Se ha vendido su parte y adios,
aun sigo preguntandome que hago con una cuenta en .social

@mellifluousbox

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@coloco

I would recommend moving your account to a different server. There is more info about the process at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

Moving lets you keep your follows and followers, and your old posts will stay in existence and help to redirect people to your new account.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Toni :mastodon:
@coloco@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @mellifluousbox sin animo de lucro vendido por un millon? jajajajja, perdona que me ria.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Guill.Jones, Honorary Canadian
@Guillotine_Jones@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips
Did Eugen stepping down trigger the Cloudflare outage?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
My Joan Private Idaho 💐😷
@clickhere@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips Thank you for this tl;dr! 🙌🏼 ❤️

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

p.s. This seems like a good moment to thank @Gargron

Obviously I disagreed with his recent stance on server onboarding, but that isn't an attack on his overall achievements.

For me Eugen's best moment was in 2022 when he was asked to sell out by multiple VC companies but he said no:

"Rochko told the Financial Times he had received offers from more than five US-based investors (which he turned down)"

https://www.ft.com/content/de808736-2e05-4c3b-a53c-55b170ae9efd

He passed the test that others (including Bluesky) have failed.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Toni :mastodon:
@coloco@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @Gargron cobro 60.000 euros o mas de alguien que no recuerdo quien es ahora, una compañia tecnologica que decia apoyar el proyecto, (no creo que esa empresa lo hiciera sin animo de lucro) y él acepto, ahora ya la pasta es muy grande y se ha arrodillado al capital...todos tenemos un precio...dicen.
#Mastodon fue despues de #GNUsocial y otras redes del #fediverse, sin #GNUsocial no sería nadie y encima se la cargo casi despues de poner activityPub y dejar a GNusocial en bolas casi

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
The Sleight Doctor 🃏
@ApostateEnglishman@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @Gargron I remain baffled that easier account migration still isn't on their roadmap. Other fedi services, such as *key servers, implement the functionality to import content archives as well as take followers with you if you change instances. There's no technical barrier to Eugen doing the same.

Having one big onboarding server wouldn't be such a problem if users could hop around the fedi without having to painstaking rebuild all their previous posting history and interactions. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ApostateEnglishman

It would still be a problem having a giant server as moving servers is always going to be considerably more complicated than joining a server. It's crucial to spread the growth out *before* people sign up.

Also the whole concept of an "onboarding server" doesn't really tally with reality. There's nothing about mastodon.social that makes things easier for new people, in fact due to its size its moderation tends to be worse and moderators harder to get hold of.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
The Sleight Doctor 🃏
@ApostateEnglishman@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips Great explanations, thanks. 🙏🏼

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ApostateEnglishman

The technical side is apparently relatively easy, if I understand correctly the main problems are in resources and moderation.

If someone has e.g. 5000 posts including attached media and they want to import it, this takes up a lot of server resources and produces a potentially very great moderation burden. What if these posts contain stuff that is forbidden in the new server's rules? And how does a small server cope with people suddenly importing massive archives?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips For all who can't see the FT-link, this article was archived: https://archive.ph/xGCGR

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@NatureMC

Thanks!

For what it's worth, the article was free to view when I clicked on it in search results, and I felt it was important to have the primary source of the quotation as the link 🙂

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

p.p.s. Also, @Gargron changed the Fediverse's overall approach to onboarding by thinking about ordinary users instead of technical hobbyists.

Mastodon wasn't the first Fediverse platform, but it was the first one to aim itself at a general audience. JoinMastodon.org was a breakthrough because it assumed no technical knowedge or desire to self-host.

Another greatest moment was Mastodon's 2018 official animation: https://fedi.video/w/cbQE3NRw76FayQCSdb14TU

Mastodon sold the concept of the Fediverse to many people.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Toni :mastodon:
@coloco@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips Parecia que bien al principio el Ipotxa, pero al final perdió los valores y se vendió al capital. Otra red que aun descentralizada, que no tanto, entre .social y la de Stux, que tienen casi todo mastodon ya no parece ni de #softwareLibre ni descentralizada, creo que va a ser el principio de su fin.

@Gargron

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
William B Peckham
@wbpeckham@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @Gargron I could not actually get that video to play. I have fast internet and after watching it try for about three minutes I gave up. I mean, I would have liked Mastodon and the Fediverse, even without an animated video, but...

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@wbpeckham

It plays fine when I tried it just now, maybe try it again?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
William B Peckham
@wbpeckham@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips yes, it is working now. and I read that Cloudsource had issues earlier today with their servers so perhaps that was involved. In any case, I have now seen it, and it's a nice little video. Thank you.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Susanne Lilith
@susannelilith@rheinneckar.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @Gargron Mastodon ist, wenn man seinen PC selber zusammen baut, aber sich auf einer Instanz anmelden zu kompliziert ist. Es liegt nicht an den Instanzen. Es geht um Follower und Reichweite. Ohne Algorithmen können die nicht.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Vinnie (any)
@greenWhale@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@FediTips @Gargron ah, the great John Mastodon who got banned on twitter. 😁

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Log in

bonfire.cafe

A space for Bonfire maintainers and contributors to communicate

bonfire.cafe: About · Code of conduct · Privacy · Users · Instances
Bonfire social · 1.0.0 no JS en
Automatic federation enabled
  • Explore
  • About
  • Members
  • Code of Conduct
Home
Login