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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

The browser I use on Android (Fennec F-Droid) just switched my default search engine back to Goggle, and what's worse, completely removed Mojeek and Brave as search options. This is an anti-feature!

It would be great if F-Droid builds of Android browsers stripped out the code that pulls dick moves like this.

#search#SearchEngines#Android#WebBrowser#FDroid#FennecFDroid

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F-Droid
@fdroidorg@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey We are tracking it in https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/issues/120
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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

FYI the other thing that Fennec @fdroidorg always does when it updates is nuke my PWAs. Would be great to get this fixed too in future builds.

I only noticed the gaps on my homescreen this morning, and it took me a minute to figure out what was missing : P

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F-Droid
@fdroidorg@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@strypey Open an issue with details please: https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/issues
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Sunny
@Sunny@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@fdroidorg @strypey I sorry to ask (as user without having github experience or IT background): Can you fix it? I had Mojeek previously but this is not in the options anymore. Also Startpage Metager and all the others are gone. Its only google duckduck ecosia bing I can choose now. 😱

#fennec #mojeek @rufposten

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@Sunny
> Can you fix it?

That's the question the linked issue discussion is investigating.

You can fix it by manually, by adding search options you want, and changing your default back to your preferred one. These are the generic instructions for FireFox, which ought to work;

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-your-default-search-settings-firefox

Let me know if you have any trouble.

@fdroidorg @rufposten

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Sunny
@Sunny@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@strypey @fdroidorg Thank you very much for your quick help. I manually added new browser. Couldn't delete google & co but de-selected them at least 👍
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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

(1/2)

@Sunny
> Couldn't delete google & co

That's the bit we need the F-Droid folks to find a way to fix, and roll out an update. Hopefully someone will be testing for this kind of enshittification before pushing future updates.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

(2/2)

Mozilla really has gone downhill. I'm hopeful that a whole new class of social browser is on the horizon, not controlled by DataFarmers like Goggle, grApple or BorgSoft, or indirectly by them, like Mozilla. See my recent posts quoting @robin Berjon's blog posts sketching out the future of the web.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Thanks for the headsup @fdroidorg. I have reported by experiences there, and I'll keep an eye on the discussion.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

FYI anyone who noticed their default search engine switch to Goggle with the latest update of Fennec F-Droid (or didn't);

@fdroidorg
> We are tracking it in

https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/issues/120

@sab38
@cantences
@deutrino
@readbeanicecream

#FennecFDroid

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deutrino
@deutrino@mstdn.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey thanks for the heads up. I had too much going on to pursue filing an issue
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Skivling
@Skivling@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey I used to have tons of options for most engines, now I only have a limited amount. Hope they can restore it back
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@fdroidorg@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey We are tracking it in https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/issues/120
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S38
@sab38@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey

This also happened to me changing duckduckgo search back to google.

It didn't happen with Firefox so there is a bug somewhere. It might be interesting for someone to track this down. I doubt it was intentional, but could lead to finding other unexpected behavior.

My understanding is Fennec is a pure rebuild of Firefox without the firefox branding. There are other browsers available that make various changes to Firefox behavior. Fennec is not one of those.

#search#SearchEngines#Android#WebBrowser#FDroid#FennecFDroid

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@sab38
> There are other browsers available that make various changes to Firefox behavior

Any of those available in F-Droid? AFAIK other than Fennec, all the web browsers available there are wrappers around the Chrome WebView built into Android.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
#TechHistory nerd side note:

One outcome of the 2001 antitrust case against BorgSoft was to stop them making all web browsing on Windows depend on Internet Exploiter. The Safari WebView on iThings does *exactly* what BorgSoft were forbidden from doing.

I'm guessing Goggle use various backhanded tricks to push app devs into using the Chrome WebView on Android. We're certainly at risk of future enshittification making it compulsory there too.

#AntiMonopoly prosecutors take note.

#AntiTrust

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Thomas
@cantences@anonsys.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey
I can't confirm that. You must have misadjusted something.
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deutrino
@deutrino@mstdn.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey I noticed that bullshit as well
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readbeanicecream
@readbeanicecream@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@strypey Agreed. You can add it back manually. It's just annoying that you have to do that.
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