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Since many people are responding with serious notes, let me add that my father and youngest brother died from cigarette-related cancers, while my mom died from COPD. All of them were lifelong smokers. Smoking will kill you.
@sjvn my grandfather died from lungecancer from smoking.
My sister in law smokes. The other one... Has done at times. My father in law does. Whenever my kids ask them why; they give vague answers like: because it's a bad habit, because i like to relax that way etc
Both of my brothers started smoking at a young age. Whenever my children ask them, they give different variations on: "because I'm an idiot, and this is the perfect expression of it" 1/2
@sjvn When @pluralistic said he quit smoking because he realized he was burning through 2 to 3 laptops/year, this perspective boggles my mind.
I never smoked or wanted to. Both my parents and sister did. RIP.
@mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic At a much younger age I worked at a neighborhood convenience store. It was the 90s so they sold a lot of cigarettes.
After seeing local addicts daily for a few years and how much money they lost on their addiction I was never tempted to start. One couple bought 3-4 cartons a week. When I did the math it was like buying a small yacht every year.
@wandrecanada @mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic
Ah #capitalism. Getting folk hooked on shit (that they don't need, wrecks their health and wrecks the environment) since 1614!
Ah #capitalism. Getting folk hooked on shit (that they don't need, wrecks their health and wrecks the environment) since 1614!
@davva23 @wandrecanada @mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic Closer to 1914, during #WW1: “Tobacco was valued as a #wartime necessity, a fact that the tobacco #industry seized upon in its #advertising that featured #soldiers, flags, and all the trappings of a triumphal nation making the world safe for #democracy. At home, tobacco funds were established to ‘send smokes to the boys’, eventually sending 16 billion cigarettes as part of relief by the war’s end.”
https://csts.ua.edu/wwi/introduction/
https://csts.ua.edu/wwi/introduction/
@mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic
i apologize if you already know this but i am compelled to point out that after the big tobacco settlement a couple decades ago people dug into the 'discovery' information provided and found that scientists at tobacco companies had realized that polonium was absorbed by tobacco plants roots from the soil, and when smoked would create tiny deposits of these alpha particles in smoker's lungs that caused cancer
they realized this in like the 30s, and developed a technique of 'acid washing' that could remove some or all of the polonium, but also removed nicotine, making the cigarettes less addictive
so they never did it
they settled for billions of dollars with the understanding they couldn't be sued again for anything else related to the case
i myself smoked cigarettes for many years and so did my dad (he quit before that specific thing killed him), and i 'quit' many many times (finally for real now)
@zombiewarrior @mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic
I'm weirdly grateful to my chainsmoking parents for smoking so unbelieveably obnoxiously much that it put me off the whole concept for ever.
@cavyherd @mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic
so have quit, and stopped, and quit etc
one of the things that always struck me is like, if you haven't smoked or not for awhile, and you have even a couple puffs off a cigarette, i at least, will get completely sick to my stomach and nauseous for awhile afterwards
that really says something about addiction that even after experiencing that every time, you just keep smoking
@cavyherd @zombiewarrior @mvilain @sjvn @pluralistic I sort of have that but I also watched my dad literally be eaten from the inside by so much cancer, it eventually got through his skin. He wasted away in front of us, only quitting just before an emergency diagnosis.
A product that kills *HALF* of all its users should not be available anywhere on the planet.
@sjvn Oh, come on. Squirrels don't deserve this even if they eat all the bird food.
@sjvn My brain went "who would ever put a squirrel in their mouth???... oh"
@sjvn they are also harmful for the environment, even if it's not used. And just land up in the landfill.
@sjvn poor squirrel!
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