@_elena @pluralistic Watched it also yesterday. Very good talk 😊 PS: You're not alone. I'm sitting at home in front of the PC and coding on #InfinitoNexus. But going to the #39c3 would had distracted me to much from finishing #InfinitoNexus ;D
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Great talk by @pluralistic, nice utopic viewpoint. He forgot the right to repair initiative.
@_elena for the context - and his predictions - also watch the 28c3 session on the "upcoming war against general purpose computers" from @pluralistic media.ccc.de/v/28c3-4848-en-th… - or listen to them, the slides (at least from this year) don't really matter.
Elena,
You gave one or two presentations recently, are there recordings of these presentations?
@MichelPatrice not the one in Bologna (I don’t think) but definitely Fedi Day Berlin at CBase and JDLL in May. I can look up links soon (I’m with family and on the road for the rest of the week) 😅
Profite de ton temps en famille.
RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/115802007577550828
➡️ https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-a-post-american-enshittification-resistant-internet#t=720 by @pluralistic ( @eff)
Seen via @_elena
#FOSS #Internet #AI #Europe #Sovereignty #Security #Copyright #Anticircumvention #Capitalism #Tech #Enshittification #Resistance #Future #Activism #EFF
@_elena @pluralistic same,
but they c3 everywhere also in local hackspace.
Same! Cheerleading is something we *can* do though :)
I watched the start of Cory's but didn't have time and am excited to continue, but did watch all of Katika Kühnreich's (didn't know her, the title got me):
"All Sorted by Machines of Loving Grace? "AI", Cybernetics, and Fascism and how to Intervene"
which was incredibly good, link here:
And it also linked to the Institute of Networked Cultures as she works for them in some capacity, which I was amazed I hadn't heard of! They've some ridiculously good writing, e.g.
https://networkcultures.org/longform/2025/12/10/bedroom-agency-neets/ (caution, flashing images on the header of this article, it is only on the header and not lower down).
@jbc ooooh thank you! 🙏
@_elena I will be watching it too ...
@_elena @pluralistic Thanks for sharing this, Elena 🤩🙏🏻 Also watching the video now. Interesting stuff 🧐
I'm right now at 46:00. I was just watching a few minutes but I got hooked by this powerful presentation.
I'm going to bed, it is 4 in the morning here. I just watched a few minutes while waking up to take a glass of water and I have been awake for an hour now.
I'm watching the rest of it tomorrow.
@_elena @pluralistic Watched it also yesterday. Very good talk 😊 PS: You're not alone. I'm sitting at home in front of the PC and coding on #InfinitoNexus. But going to the #39c3 would had distracted me to much from finishing #InfinitoNexus ;D
Hi @kevinveenbirkenbach what you are doing sounds like a very well curated set of webapps offered as a service! Did you know of #CoopCloud the cooperative cloud community that collectively builds and maintains a "configuration commons" for precisely that? https://coopcloud.tech
@Wtebbens @_elena @pluralistic @coopcloud Seems interesting. But I don't see any current updates. Anyhow if you'd like to chat. I'm every time glad to receive tipps 😊
https://s.infinito.nexus/meet
Yes. #InfinitoNexus sets up the whole server with a #SSO for all apps, encryption, certificate and domain management. One script to to rule them all. I think my solution is the most advanced #OpenSource solution in this field.
...just need to somehow make money with it now... Need to pay my bills ;D
@kevinveenbirkenbach @Wtebbens @_elena @pluralistic re: updates, a lot happened in october and these projects didn't stop organising just yet 😉 https://coopcloud.tech/blog/oct-2025-update/ -- d1
@kevinveenbirkenbach @Wtebbens @_elena @pluralistic @coopcloud co-op cloud is constantly worked on and has an active community, we even had a meetup at 39C3.
Regarding a one script for all solution, you could look at kollicloud from Local-IT. It is built upon coop cloud, preselected set of apps with SSO. https://git.local-it.org/local-it/kollicloud
(The website is only available in English.)
Hi @kevinveenbirkenbach
Checking out your code repo I noticed that your parts of the software are not open source. You prohibit commercial usage. I understand that you are seeking a way to make money, logically. But have you thought through a proper business model?
If you want, I could conduct a brief Q&A with you to think through the five pillars. We could do that here in the Fedi.
@Wtebbens @_elena @pluralistic @coopcloud
Sounds great 😊
Want to publish it under AGPL3. I will do a kickstarter campaign -> Need capital to setup a proper company and pay my bills.
Short: Marketplace for automatic deployment to the server of your choice.
B2C: ~ (1 € * account * apps) / month
B2B: B2C + provision for Enterprise Editions
Additional: Provision for hosting & domain.
Focus and promote #FOSS but proprietary support as well.
Pitchdeck: https://s.infinito.nexus/pitchdeck
@kevinveenbirkenbach @_elena @pluralistic @coopcloud Maybe it'd be good that your solution appear in the comparison page: docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/comparisons/#doing-it-manually-old-school
In any case, the CoopCloud community has a few active matrix rooms and an online meeting every Thursday - the "kiteflying hour". Feel welcome to join. It is a kind of cooperative federation of coop cloud providers, really good people to connect with.
@Wtebbens @_elena @pluralistic
Thanks a lot. It seems like @cloudron, @coopcloud and @yunohost are a serious alternative. Wasn't aware of them yet 😉
Added them to my market overview graphic :)
https://s.infinito.nexus/marketmap
Do you by any chance know the current matrix channel of @coopcloud ?
I couldn't find !xSMwGbdVehScXcIFwS:autonomic.zone :(
@kevinveenbirkenbach @_elena @pluralistic @cloudron @coopcloud @yunohost Here is the Co-op Cloud general matrix room: https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/contact/