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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Meta did this? Mastodon gGmbH’s partner Meta at the Social Web Foundation?

But aren’t Mastodon gGmbH the good guys? I can’t see how they’d ever partner with Meta if this were true.

No, no, this must be fake news.

(Otherwise, what would it say about Mastodon gGmbH and the Social Web Foundation?)

https://socialwebfoundation.org/

#Meta #Mastodon #MastodonGGMBH #socialWebFoundation #fediverse #BigTech #capitalism #peopleFarming

https://mamot.fr/@Khrys/114935241338278110

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Deborah Pickett
@futzle@old.mermaid.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral Ah, Evan is involved with this, now it makes sense. He’s always been keen on bridging the Fedi to every other social platform and can’t comprehend how it’ll end in Embrace Extend Extinguish.
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Tristan :ms_bisexual_flag:
@TristanB@tiggi.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral 'We want the Fediverse to grow':
The 'follow us' section of https://socialwebfoundation.org/ that includes Twitter and Threads, but not Mastodon.
The 'follow us' section of https://socialwebfoundation.org/ that includes Twitter and Threads, but not Mastodon.
The 'follow us' section of https://socialwebfoundation.org/ that includes Twitter and Threads, but not Mastodon.
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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@TristanB Who are you going to believe, them or your own eyes? What do you mean your own eyes? What are you, a communist?
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Tristan :ms_bisexual_flag:
@TristanB@tiggi.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral b-b-but Meta have always been so very honest!

Are you implying that they would pretend to be in support of an open standard, that's outside of their control, only to corrupt and consume it entirely?

I am shocked, *shocked*, that anyone could even consider such a thing!

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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@TristanB
Your browser does not support the video tag.
Scene from Casablanca, patrons leaving club. Captain Renault to Rick: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
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Tristan :ms_bisexual_flag:
@TristanB@tiggi.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral
A poster promoting 'The Leopards Eating People's Faces Party'.

Proud Member! It's not like they're going to eat *my* face!
A poster promoting 'The Leopards Eating People's Faces Party'. Proud Member! It's not like they're going to eat *my* face!
A poster promoting 'The Leopards Eating People's Faces Party'. Proud Member! It's not like they're going to eat *my* face!
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wendooOOOoo
@wendinoakland@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral This kind of behavior from #Meta would merit #FediBlock from #Mastodon. The #socialWebFoundation is an impossibility
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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@wendinoakland I’ve stopped holding my breath for Mastodon gGmbH to take a principled stand on this issue. The right time was when Meta first raised its ugly head in these parts. But I guess we have to give these surveillance capitalists every benefit of the doubt every fucking time.
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wendooOOOoo
@wendinoakland@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral There aren’t any doubts remaining. They’re irredeemably bad. 🖖🏼
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Wuzzy
@Wuzzy@cyberplace.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral

This foundation makes zero sense. Claims to be for the "open future for social networks" but then has Meta a partner, has socials on X and Threads (but somehow not Mastodon (???)). Meta and X are 100% antithetical to this goal, it's all proprietary garbage. They’re enemies, not friends.

Open web, or Meta. Can’t have both.

@Mastodon Can you confirm you’re part of this foundation or is this accusation false? If it is true: When will you leave it?

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DeadTOm
@deadtom@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@Wuzzy @aral @Mastodon Here is the link to the launch announcement.

https://socialwebfoundation.org/2024/09/24/launch/

Under "Industry Support", Meta is the fourth one down.

That alone was enough for me to immediately write this organization off back when it was announced.

Meta wants to use the Fediverse as another avenue to farm AI training data, and user data. Their involvement in this organization is simply to figure out how they can do that, and any other ways they can loot the Fediverse for anything they can.

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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@deadtom @Wuzzy @Mastodon > That alone was enough for me to immediately write this organization off back when it was announced.

That’s because you’re not corrupt.

(Rare quality these days.)

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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

@Wuzzy @Mastodon Yeah, you know me, I have nothing better to do than to go around making false accusations.

Screenshot of socialwebfoundation.org web site showing, among others, Meta and Mastodon as partners.
Screenshot of socialwebfoundation.org web site showing, among others, Meta and Mastodon as partners.
Screenshot of socialwebfoundation.org web site showing, among others, Meta and Mastodon as partners.
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schrotthaufen
@schrotthaufen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral @Wuzzy @Mastodon Lol Automattic’s on the list as well. Can’t make this up 😂
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Hache☕
@Hache@masto.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@schrotthaufen @aral @Wuzzy @Mastodon maybe they could ask Palantir to join the free open and colourful club
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Fredrik Graver
@fgraver@hcommons.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@Hache @schrotthaufen @aral @Wuzzy @Mastodon Ghost is on there too? I thought they were supposed to be the ethical alternative to Substack?

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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aaron
@aaron@social.tromdienste.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@schrotthaufen@Mastodon@aral@Hache@Wuzzy@fgraver this is why we need to make people understand the very bad influence in our society (trade) and show them viable solutions. @trom is a project that does that in detail and the directory.trade-free.org is a place that tries to list solutions that are truly nice, "ethical" and helpful to others instead of having the profit incentive in mind.
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Andre123
@andre123@snowfan.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@aral is this confirmed ?
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