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@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

A safer internet starts with smarter age checks.

Today, we're rolling out our first prototype of an age verification app to protect minors:

📱 Online platforms will be able to use it to protect our children from harmful and illegal content.

🚸Young people will be able to verify their age without revealing any other info, such as their identity.

🌍 The pilot phase kicks off with 🇩🇰🇫🇷🇬🇷🇮🇹🇪🇸

Making sure our children and young people are safe online is our duty.

https://europa.eu/!BKxcW3

Illustration promoting an age verification solution in Europe. A smartphone screen displays a message requiring users to verify they are 18 years old to access a website. The background is a gradient of purple and green with repeated '18+' symbols. The EU Commission logo appears in the top right corner.
Illustration promoting an age verification solution in Europe. A smartphone screen displays a message requiring users to verify they are 18 years old to access a website. The background is a gradient of purple and green with repeated '18+' symbols. The EU Commission logo appears in the top right corner.
Illustration promoting an age verification solution in Europe. A smartphone screen displays a message requiring users to verify they are 18 years old to access a website. The background is a gradient of purple and green with repeated '18+' symbols. The EU Commission logo appears in the top right corner.
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Crystal 💾💽📼🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
@crystal717@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
honest summary:
- the EU is working on a general internet censorship tool, calls it child protection
- harmful content will be accessible differently now (onion, torrent, shady websites)
- topics that governments and bigots don't like (LGBT existence, abortion) will be wiped from the open internet
- undocumented people will have limited access to internet
- so will people who choose not to own a smartphone (assuming the process will require one)
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Ellen Timmer
@ellent@mastodon.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Is er al iemand die heeft gekeken hoe dit werkt? #AVG #privacy

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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Single-use certificates, good stuff!
Let's try to avoid India's Aadhar number privacy catastrophy :)
We can't have both full anonymity and age verification at the same time, but like hell any private business has anything to do with my identity.
So let's have anonymity where we can and keep the responsibility with people I can vote out of government if they fail me.
(And if we do elect a fascist government, this will be the least of our worries. Sorry EFF libertarians.)
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chico
@chicob@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
Finally, an official tool that will distinguish those who can't circumvent it from those who can.
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blcprofessor
@blcprofessor@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission

God bless VPN services...

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thesquarepear
@thesquarepear@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
this "for the children" argument will always make me suspicious 😬
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Paul in de Emiraten
@Paul_Harts@mastodon.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission and you know what else is sad? It’s so American! If there’s one thing that this mildly different between people in the north of the EU and the Anglo-Saxon world it’s their approach to nudity. Where the Anglo-Saxons are extremely prudish and the north European countries like Denmark and Netherlands are rather liberal.

So what does the European Union do?

Exactly, copy the Anglo-Saxon world.

So again: it’s the responsibility of the parents.
Nufsaid.

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swordfishtrumpet
@swordfishtrumpet@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Concept:

A browser extension that:
• Stores or imports an age credential file (e.g., JSON, JWT, or cryptographic blob)
• Automatically detects when a site requests age verification
• Intercepts the request and auto-injects a valid credential (e.g., over-18 proof)
• Silently passes the check without user interaction

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@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Stupid question about this, that hopefully someone more versed in security than me might know.

The protocol description mentions that the first version is going to use batching and after that going to move to a ZK proof but... Wouldn't this particular case work well with a single batch for everyone?

For example, you would authenticate in an app/website and get the current global "adult PIN" (rotating every 10 minutes or something). Kind of like TOTP, but not really (as it's not one time and is shared by everyone).

I'm sure I'm missing something, but what would be the limitations of this vs the proposed solution?

I can think of code sharing, but if the refresh window is small, is that so much different than sharing the content itself?

Even if a website decided to start distributing the codes openly, wouldn't that just be the same as if someone setup an adult proxy or a site without an age gate?

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Death by Lambda
@xdydx@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
A safer internet starts with literally a thousand social and educational initiatives and programmes before it starts with that.
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Janet Grootebroeder
@JanetGrBr@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission 👎
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Paul in de Emiraten
@Paul_Harts@mastodon.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission a better Europe starts with a European Commission doing serious stuff.

Every app, every device and every streaming service has excellent parental controls. It’s the parents that are responsible for what their children see and don’t see. There’s even within the European Union a huge cultural difference in what is seen as appropriate per age group.

So stop messing around and start doing serious stuff or your risk repeating the cookie drama.

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KevinOnEarth
@Quantillion@mstdn.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
Also, we need to know, WHO among the EU's 450 million population was asked if they want a "European Digital Identity Wallet" (#EUDIW)? And for what purpose? (To be "rolled out" in 2026!) 🤔
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KevinOnEarth
@Quantillion@mstdn.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
Checking how an "age verification" app can "allow users to easily prove they are over 18" while at the same time the user remains "in full control of any other personal information, such as a user's exact age or identity":
"age will be verified by the issuer using detailed personal data", so, uhh. 🤷
Apps can be removed/disabled/bypassed. Better, I believe, would be to rate a DEVICE as 18+, 16+ or All Ages, where it's the System that blocks age-restricted content.
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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

@EUCommission

So over here in the USA the largest sources of child abuse are parents, close relatives, and churches.

A big push to put restrictions on kids access to the internet comes from the christian nationalists who want to keep kids away from information about LGBT people and America's history of slavery.

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wolnyjez
@wolnyjez@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Presenting Age Verification(TM).

From the same people who want to scan all your online communications, including encrypted ones. (#ChatControl and #ProtectEU)

Just trust them bro. This powerful system will definitely not be used to control which sites and services you may use on the Internet in the future. /s

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nictakiego
@nictakiego@mastodon.com.pl replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission without zero-knowledge proof this idea is going straight to trash can. At least in Poland...We won't give out our freedom to bad political people.
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Angela Scholder
@AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Sorry, but just passing an age test doesn't make kids ready for certain material on the web!
Proper education and guidance does!

And, illegal material is still illegal, even though kids pass a certain age test!

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Tomasz Kontusz
@ktosiek@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission how will those checks help with illegal content? Isn't it, by definition, served with no respect to the law?

On a more serious note: adding a speed bump for accessing gambling, gacha, or other content designed to induce addiction might make sense. But how can we know furry artists won't get thrown into the same basket?

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Miyuna
@yuuni71@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission You are providing a solution that won't fix the problem in question, but will introduce unnecessary surveillance in a very personal and intimate sphere further destroying the reputation of the EU within member states and giving fuel to far-right movements. It will be very invasive for adults, and inefficient for minors - they will find ways to access such content either way. Instead you should explore areas of proper sexual education, teaching consent and non-abusive pornography.
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y2k38
@y2k38@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Well I am not sure how it works, because the document is loooong without simple tldr (if it is there, I didn't find it, sorry). Can someone explain me how it works please? Thanks
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woxom98179
@woxom98179@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Just use local control (like parental control) for minor. This is efficient (cannot be bypassed by VPN) and privacy respecting (100% local). Mandate phone sold to minors to be locked this way, while phone sold to adult are unlocked.

Online solutions are easily bypassed and extremely privacy invasive, this is clearly the wrong approach

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Azarilhⓥ
@Azarilh@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission "The age verification blueprint is an open-source implementation of these specifications"

At least it's open-source, gotta give credit when due.

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Azarilhⓥ
@Azarilh@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission And why would this work? People would simply go to shady porn websites full of scams and malware instead of the safe ones. You solve nothing, you create more problems.

Improve education standards instead.

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Darwin Woodka
@darwinwoodka@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission

bullshit

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Fabrizio :archlinux: :tardis:
@betelgeuse93@mastodon.uno replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission we want internet free of corporation, not controlled by governments and corporation.
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Ryek Darkener
@_RyekDarkener_@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission

Well …

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Hendrik Pfaff 🇪🇺
@HendrikPfaff@ioc.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission
Does this architecture utilize Zero-Knowledge Proofs? Also, why create an additional architecture when the #EUDI wallet should also be capable of age verification?
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farlukar
@farlukar@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission “Hey mister, can you authorize my phone as 18+?”
“Sure, there you go kiddo”
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Federation Bot
@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission I don't know if it's a good idea to add age-wall in the Internet.
But if the solution is really anonymous, it could be good to extend it for other types of attestation.
For example, get an anonymous proof that you're a student, so people will stop sending their school certificate to random websites for promotions
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Kᑐᑌᑐᕮ
@Kdude@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission However, it’s not anonymous; The system you are planning to implement, would be a very bad day for #privacy
Therefore, I vote against the current prototype 👎🏼

There are alternatives, which do respect privacy…

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Elric
@elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Oh fuck off with this dystopian, totalitarian shit.

You want to be China? This is how you become China.

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Huubje
@Huubje@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission anyone know if options other than Android or iOS are a potential possibility?
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Marcel Schindler
@trancefish@det.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Isn't that the duty of parents?
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Bealtaine Healy-Rae-Nua
@Tarbh@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission This is probably not the best way of doing this - but at first glance it certainly seems a bit better than the UK and Comisiun na Mean solutions, which would have kids sending their photos to porn sites... @Tupp_ed
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Blu2
@Blu2@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission very curious about this, could this also be used to identify that you are european?
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Maurizio :unverified:
@migbox@mastodon.uno replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission delegating the check to a site is a dumb decision that made possible scams.
If you want to realise an age verification easy and Safe, you can use something like Italian Spid. People visiting a e.g. porn site must authenticate with a spid provider. Once authenticated, the provider will pass a token to the site which authorize the user to access it
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Franz van Betteraey
@FrVaBe@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission 👍
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Outfrost
@outfrost@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission This is a non-solution in search of a problem. Young people are getting radicalised by neo-nazi content on all-ages websites like YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, while youth consumption of pornography causes zero measurable harm. I am appalled that we are introducing this level of surveillance into European daily lives.

#ageverification

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Bart Louwers
@bart@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@EUCommission Whether this is required should be up to the discretion of parents. Personally I believe you cannot protect children and young people by barricading them offline, I don't see how online is any different. They're going to come across some 18+ content at some point, much more effective to educate.

https://youtu.be/LTJvdGcb7Fs

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Matija Šuklje
@hook@toot.si replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

For anyone interested, here seems to be the more technical documentation:
https://ageverification.dev/

and at a super lazy skim-through it seems the implementation should be FOSS too.

@EUCommission

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