It's Chriiiiiiistmas. Merry Christmas everyone.
@TheBreadmonkey ‘Tis a season!
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ya know i was specifically wondering what joey hess would make of this debian LLM bullshit, his response is what i expected
David, can you point at anything concrete? Maybe I am too dumb, but the closest I found was a retirement announcement in debian-project denouncing it, but again without anything specific.
@maybe_mbk @simon_lucy thinking of this one
https://federate.social/@jik/117181054841339741
the guy was banned immediately, which is good. but that anyone though this sort of AI bro triumphalism would pass muster at all.
Fireside Fedi Panel (Very Low Quality Recording)
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activists have entered the #gooogle construction site in #kronstorf and are currently asking for a stop of #datacenter construction #austria #upperaustria #oberösterreich
The People‑First Platform: Hannah Aubry on Mastodon and the Fediverse - E74 - Livestream 2026-02-11 12-12-23
Measuring software quality - Tien Anh
Dan York
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Debian votes to allow "responsible use of generative AI"
@xssfox Got access to a ramset/hilti? Could really cause some chaos.
@firstyear @xssfox I’m not saying that adding extra padlocks to things makes things quite interesting, but I’m also not not saying that.
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Stop saying stupid stuff like:
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."
Start saying:
"A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."
I'm surprised that so many people don't know this.
@lowqualityfacts
My local ice cream van plays Yakety Sax (the Benny Hill theme) so that kind of makes sense.
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First Harry and Megan, then Sarah Ferguson, and now Milo? If I were in the UK government I would consider this a hostile act
@Cdespinosa’m visualizing a Monty Pythonesque scene of Brits in a single file queue, terminating at a trebuchet.
David Gerard
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> Larry Fink, BlackRock’s chief executive, called the combination the “future for financial engineering”
I presume this is all fine and these people have never been wrong before, I haven't got time to check right now
@82mhz To be honest, I don't know. I'll try to understand more about it at EuroBSDCon, as there'll be the NetBSD Summit.
But what I know is that NetBSD people don't care (AT ALL!) about the "new and shiny" things.
What we'll have to reckon with over the next 5 years is the number of new devs who were raised on AI. For them, coding without it is impossible. It reminds me still writing code with vi (not vim!) while plenty of thirty-somethings look at me in horror because I don't use an IDE.
That, in my view, will be the deciding factor. And at that point, it will be interesting to see how individual projects choose their path forward.
As of today, this is where things stand. 'Del doman non v'è certezza,' as a famous 15th-century poet once wrote.
@stefano
You already read pretty terrible story about how they "AI natives" leaving the universities now perform in the real world... pretty badly, unsurprisingly.
I'm curious to learn what the BSD people will say about it at BSDCon. For now, I think learning BSD is not a bad idea ;)
@CartyBoston I look forward to the USA's 'Nuremberg' trials.
@llanciawn We didn't do it after Nixon so some of us are worried we will avoid it again.
I'll do *any*thing in my limited power to see that they are held accountable, including working against Dems who don't.
Ross Gayler
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I happened across this map visualisation of every train in the UK on the 19th August 2026, with every second equal to 20 mins, and found it satisfying to behold, hence I'm sharing it.
@spla I redrew it fresh cause the lines were strangely very uneaven on the version you have, your welcome to reuse it if you want
@liaizon ok, thanks again
Debian permitting use of genAI:
1) I am surprised. Perhaps I am naive, but I was of the impression that Debian would be one of the last distros that would want this.
2) I agree that the legal position varies around the world, and is subject to change. I don't know how easy it would be to remove genAI code if the risk profile changed.
3) I am surprised how little weight is given (by anyone, not just Debian devs) to the environmental harm of genAI. Perhaps that is justified as being too remote to be of direct concern.
4) As a long term Debian user impacted by this decision, I need to make a decision. Not doing anything is a decision in itself, even if a temporary decision. Moving from Debian would be many days of work, but that doesn't mean doing so is the wrong decision for me. Aargh.
@neil I can't actually recommend that you wade in very far, but if you do, you will see that many developers voted for options that focused on environmental (and other harms) of AI. It just happens that the winning option chose to pretend those harms don't exist. It's like "shitty elected leader $Y of country $X"; as a non-$Y supporter you have to live not only with a shitty leader, but also the reputational damage to being from country $X.
