Discussion
Slogans that advocate FOR something can bring change (not necessarily good).
Slogans that solidify against something stoke division.
Sometimes, a slogan can be both for AND against. For example: “Tax the rich”. That can work, but it’s better if it can be framed only in terms of FOR.
What should be intolerable division (but is sadly tolerated) is not dissipated with divisiveness. It doesn’t make any difference if the framing of it is empirically, historically true – it’s still tactically inept
@ehproque I’ve been struggling with this since Sunday. I don’t know if it’s possible to make sense of it.
But as tends to be the case with me, I couldn’t go on saying nothing. Which may also be tactically inept
@urlyman I don't know, there's got two be something between the "it's complicated" cop out and a doctoral thesis. In any case, you can support all kind of measures for Palestine and against Israel without having to define what else is wrong with Israel because *they are committing a genocide*, and that's something I'm sure pretty much every party member can get behind (probably most European Greens as well)
What's missing here, Jonathan?
@passenger well obviously something. Probably hundreds of things. Perhaps you can help me with what’s prominent in your mind.
If perhaps you mean that we *are* mired in a kinetic war (see follow-up post), a case can be made for that.
But the degree to which the British electorate themselves viscerally are or are not is pertinent
If I understand correctly, given your second toot, you're currently discussing the Green Party's recent adoption of the widespread international position that Zionism is a form of racism.
If so, could you quote, say, ten or so British Muslim voices on the matter? Not those who are trying to suck up to White people and be respectable, but people with credibility.
Possibly some Palestinian voices too.
…For a country that is already mired in kinetic war, the calculus of sloganeering changes somewhat. Mortal danger is a bastard.
But here in the UK we are not there yet.
I’m so disappointed in #GPEW
Install bonfire.cafe
Get the full app experience
@urlyman I have been thinking about this since yesterday, but struggled to put into words that wouldn't make the issue worse if most people were to repeat them. I didn't say anything, but most of all I didn't *write a fucking manifesto*