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@beckett @evacide anyway, you're the one claiming that "EFF did not give its imprimatur to so-called AI."
I firmly disagree. The onus is on you (now that I've explained my position against that proposition) to prove me wrong.
And no, I'm not just some troll or sealion that you can dismiss. I'm calling the EFF out on their frankly disgusting dissimulation.
That's not really how it works. I haven't seen anything explaining a position, just some conclusory statements and snark. No one anywhere is obligated to respond to such.
There is a solid argument that if the kids downloading metallica on napster weren't copyright infringers then neither are the techlords with AI. That's a fair and plausible argument. That is /not/ the same as saying "AI good."
If you cannot see the distinction, well, honestly, that's your myopia, and not anyone else's problem to fix.
I'm not going to get into the weeds on copyright law here, but here is my very short non-legal summary of EFF's position: copyright law is like the One Ring. You think you can just slip it on and defeat the AI companies, but if you do, you will 1. probably not even slow the companies down 2. endanger a bunch of stuff on the internet that depends on fair use by getting a bad ruling that will be cited in future court cases. You think this is going to go well for you, but you should throw the ring into the volcano.
This is not about loving AI and wanting to defend our techlords. This is a floor of angry attack lawyers telling you that this particular method of attack is going to blow up in our faces. There is an argument to made that some enemies should be taken down by any means necessary, but that is not an argument that is going to get very far with civil liberties lawyers whose whole raison d'etre is that the rule of law matters and it should apply fairly to everyone.
@muddle What cop-out? The AI problem isn’t solved by copyright. EFF didn’t say that techbros shoving AI up our rectums with the attendant data center fossil fuel water pollution climate change is fine. They just said that it isn’t solved by copyright. EFF did not give its imprimatur to so-called AI. @evacide