back on my EV buying bullshit (I did not want to buy another car for at least a few more years) and finding that my hard requirement for drivers seat & mirror position linked to a profile, so my 150cm wife and I (185cm) who share the car aren't constantly adjusting the position of the seat and mirrors every few days - isn't that common in many vehicles!
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@georgeharito yeah it's not as common as I thought either - like the BYD Atto 3 and Dolphin even the new updated one, doesn't have it at all. But the BYD Seal and Sealion 7, both have it.
@decryption ... reckon we slowly need a mandatory minimum "feature" list for modern cars enforced by ACCC kinda thing: doors that can be opened from the outside without requiring electric power, rearview camera, buttons/knobs for certain functions (the so-called "fuck the touchscreen" mode), driver profile for seat positions/mirrors, quarterly map updates for GPS system, ban on E.T.-phone-home traffic over WiFi/Phone to countries-that-we-shall-not-explicitly-name-here, etc. @georgeharito
making a list of cars with:
* Under $50,000 drive away new or used
* More than 400km of WLTP range (ideally 450km+)
* Drivers seat & mirror positions linked to multliple profiles.
* 360-degree camera
Nice to have:
* Non-flush/electronic door handles
* No glass roof
* Traditional keyfob option to lock/unlock car
* Under 4400mm in length
* ADAS systems that aren't a piece of shit
* Be able to view charge status remotely, ideally without an app that requires Google Play Services on Android
@decryption personally I'd be moving the non-flush door handles from "nice to have" to "mandatory". An essential safety feature in my book. My other one is "single physical button for fresh to recirc air" for when entering tunnels or behind stinky diesel.
That being said, I'm very impressed with the Geely, and eyeing it off for a future purchase. Same company as Volvo with an established service network gives it high marks. And having ridden in a few, high marks for comfort
@decryption it's crazy how profiles aren't standard on everything with electric driver's seat. Seems like a final no-brainer step
@arichtman @decryption Why make something free when they could sell it as an add-on tied to an app linked profile.
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Not sure about the price where you are but otherwise BYD Sealion 7 should match most of these if you can stretch to 55k. (Or find it used)
A bit longer (4830) and only the seat + side mirrors adjust. Or check the smaller ones - should use similar systems.
@viraptor the Seal and Sealion do, but the Atto & Dolphin do not :(
@decryption I need this list please
@arichtman about half way
@decryption @arichtman ... When did BMW and Mercedes drop in price relative to everything else?
@decryption "ADAS systems that aren't a piece of shit" - haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha ! Nice one.
@otte_homan to be fair, the ADAS in my Volvo EX30 is excellent- never bothered me at all, perfectly done
@decryption wait, many EVs don’t even have key fobs? what do they have? 🤔
pls tell me it’s not some shitty “use an app to unlock your car” or “when your phone or watch comes close it auto-unlocks”… 🥺
@itgrrl yep, it's an app on your phone, or the phone itself (using the UWB chip in the phone) - or just an NFC keycard that you tap. Or the keyfob has no buttons and it's just an NFC proximity sensor that doesn't work half the damn time.
I remember back at uni I had a friend who went through nine PowerBooks at the on-campus Apple Store, because each one had some sort of issue that pissed him off (dead pixels, screen discolouration, keyboard feel was off, trackpad didn't click right etc) - at the time I was thought he was just being annoying and a crank. 20 years later and I totally understand where he is coming from now.
I spend too much time in my car and I'm tired of putting up with the little daily annoyances that really shouldn't be there just because someone at Volvo couldn't give a shit or cut a corner to save money.
@decryption you should have picked the XC40 with me ;)
@decryption Might be an idea to consider what telemetry is sent back to the manufacturer or others. And any other user-hostile data collection or transmission.
@decryption My Cannon Alpha PHEV has 3 profiles. So we have two and a spare. Seat, mirrors and reverse mirror tilt
@tubsta yep, lots of cars have it, but many I assumed would, don't! being able to adjust the rear view mirror automatically is very nice
@decryption I know what I’m saying next is not that helpful, but I’m amazed that seat positions being saved to key profiles isn’t really a thing in EVs in 2026? My 2020 BMW 330i has it (I had gotten around to setting up my wife’s key a week or two ago and it’s great), this isn’t a high bar to overcome I think?