@_elena What a waste of time all that typing was. I didn't even finish reading this pile. Fuck them.
"...already have a meaningful presence in that community..."
Yep. Understood.
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@_elena What a waste of time all that typing was. I didn't even finish reading this pile. Fuck them.
"...already have a meaningful presence in that community..."
Yep. Understood.
@_elena "Look, we're giving money to a company that throws puppies into a wood chipper, but that patronage is separate from our product decisions."
If I pay a subscription to the company that is giving this money to the puppy killers, at least some of my money is going to wood chipper maintenance. So, I'd choose to stop that.
Bitwarden client + vaultwarden self-hosting is really really good.
@_elena
If you have a proton account just use proton pass 😄
@_elena Hearing a lot of "___ is better, I'm moving here..." in these replies. May help to keep in mind the following:
Proton has a history. They don't explicitly back Trump and the alt-right, but they don't denounce fascism either. There's an old country song: "you got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything..." (But you don't have to take my word for it: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e )
KeePass XC, and I quote: "If our AI policy toppled your trust in us, ask yourself why you trusted us (or anyone) in the first place." They use LLM contributions in their work. Don't like it? Don't use it. (Source: https://keepassxc.org/blog/2025-11-09-about-keepassxcs-code-quality-control/ )
Bitwarden has been taken over last year by venture capitalists seeking to slopify it with AI, cull features, raise prices, and if they didn't get caught, end free service without a single press release. (Want a receipt? https://blog.ppb1701.com/the-quiet-renovation-at-bitwarden ) Vaultwarden is still better (security is as good as your own host) but I'd consider Bitwarden to be the next LastPass waiting to happen if the asshat CEO doesn't flip it for profit first.
I don't have a good answer of who to choose in this case. Just want to air the past dirty laundry from possible password manager refugees who may have been burned before (see LastPass's fall from prominence) and think another cloud based option will protect their secrets with better values.
TL;DR: There isn't anyone seemingly who want to stand against fascism overtly. If you jump, you may need to jump again. And again. And again...
@_elena Form letter. Same response sent to a Verge reader in their comments.
Turns out 1Password is a "big tent" company same as all the other alt-right donors. (They don't mention it but the same reasoning: we like who we like, we aren't changing our mind, your political views aren't our problem.)
@_elena What a waste of time all that typing was. I didn't even finish reading this pile. Fuck them.
"...already have a meaningful presence in that community..."
Yep. Understood.
@_elena @inthehands I got the same response verbatim.
@_elena tone deaf fascist enabling wankers.
@_elena Shorter 1Password: "Evil is not a dealbreaker for us and we're sorry to hear it is one for you."
@_elena @inthehands “We didn’t donate to DHH, we donated to the foundation DHH controls. It’s completely different!”
@_elena the fact that they have a canned response ready to go tells you that they're getting this feedback from a lot of people, but not actually listening to it.
@_elena Thanks for doing the right thing. I already added 1Password to the global list of boycotted brands and services.🙂
@_elena It is at minimum a form letter — I got the exact same reply. I've also left for greener pastures.
@_elena It should be clear enough by now that for-profit companies are fascism adjacent, if not full on collaborators. Especially in tech, the brain worms have burrowed deep in that industry. We need some nonprofit or cooperative cloud services that exist and run for the users and not just to inflate the ego of some empty suit.
@_elena That sounds like a pile of bullshit to me. If they had done 5 minutes of Googling, they would have known exactly how their support of Omacom would be perceived by large parts of the developer and open-source communities.
People don't usually tend to throw heaps of money at random foundations with no research about who they are and what they're in the news for. At this point, one has to assume that anyone who chooses to support Omarchy does it because of DHH's views, not despite them.
@_elena
Wow. Thanks so much for this Elena - I read it as ‘get f*cked’. Glad you - and others - are not with them anymore. Respect. 👍🙏🏻
@_elena god, they really think we're all so dumb.
@_elena Same reply I got. Fuck ‘em.
@_elena Leaked Slack comment from the CEO indicates what they really think: "the Nazis are the victims" -- see https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
@_elena "We contributed to an organization, which, unlike people, can do no evil. Even if its members are evil people"
BULLSHIT
@_elena I’m in the process of installing VaultWarden so I only use the app. Their response was just not convincing enough.
@_elena "we decided to support Hitler's art, not Hitler as a person, because we want to support art and it's communities."
@_elena It's giving Mullvad
@_elena good I guess that you got a human response, but sadly, a corporate word salad so not valuable (imo).
You did better than I did when leaving Mullvad - I explicitly said it was because of their co-founders continued patronage of the far right party in Sweden and said I'd be pleased to return once he had no financial interest in the business.
Annoyed af because Proton is nowhere near as good as Mullvad, but cannot support fash.
@_elena Remove abusive power, before it's too late, and avalanches into utter collapse.
@_elena kudos to them for supplying a meaningful response 😊.
@bitwarden is a great product, btw ... have been using it for several years for our entire family
You could have also moved to VaultWarden, the self-hosted manager compatible with BitWarden clients. Given that you have your own server (and that BitWarden is dangerously embracing AI in its codebase), I'm surprised you went for an externally controlled password management tool again.
I received the exact same response, word for word, which is understandable
I do wish they didn't downplay it so much
@rubenwardy I know! but hey glad that many people wrote to them about the reason why we are abandoning ship. they must have lost a lot of business... I myself had been a client for over a decade
@_elena bitwarden is great, using it for many years. What's wrong with omarchy?
@_elena Someone whom I'm rudely not crediting (sorry, I forgot your username!) put it best:
> We recognize that the NSDAP is closely associated with its founder, and that raises questions about what our support means. Our contribution is made to the NSDAP, not to an individual, and is not an endorsement of any individual's personal or political views.
@_elena there's plenty of other ways to support open source work financially that don't go to a nazi's foundation (at least I assume nazi's haven't taken over all of open source).
@_elena Ok, but they don't see that one follows not from the other? Supporting open source projects does not automatically imply supporting a specific dotfile collection's money-laundry. For example they could just give the money to Arch directly.
Come to think of it, a way to save face would be to sever ties with Omarchy and give double the amount to Arch.
@_elena Thank you for sharing this.
@_elena@mastodon.social the usual "not the individual" thing
@_elena So you made the move to Bitwarden?
@fiend4coffee Yes, she wrote just that.
Interestingly I just moved from Proton Pass to KeepassXC.
@fiend4coffee Proton Pass is very good. I went there from Bitwarden to get EU software instead of US software.
And now KeepassXC, to have full control over where my password files are. It takes some time to figure it out but I like it.
The browser extension for Proton Pass is superior to the Bitwarden one in my not so humble opinion.
@_elena It sounds real from a human.
@_elena yeah, the usual "don't mix politics with tech/software" bullsh*t basically
@_elena the response may be human generated but it seems the same for many people who contact them https://nicolalosito.it/2026/09/03/1password-replied-to-my-disappointment/