Post by @tante@tldr.nettime.org

Sassinake! - ⊃∪∩⪽

@Sassinake@mastodon.social · 44 minutes ago

@tante

google wants to kill independent thought, making 'thinking outside the box' illegal to impossible.

#ThoughtCrime

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"The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression ... but to make all other modes of thought impossible.
It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted ... a heretical thought ... should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words."

G. Orwell - 1984 — "The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression ... but to make all other modes of thought impossible. It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted ... a heretical thought ... should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words." G. Orwell - 1984

Ultimate power is wielded by telling lies as truth.

Or, as George Orwell put it:
In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy.
The heresy of heresies was common sense. — Ultimate power is wielded by telling lies as truth. Or, as George Orwell put it: In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.

Stephen Shankland

@stshank@mstdn.social · 2 hours ago

@tante I don't think Google wants to kill the web as such. On the contrary I suspect it really wants the web to thrive, if nothing else as a source of training data. I don't think it's figured out a way to push its AI priorities that doesn't continue to do businesses on the web serious harm.

Ronan

@ronanmcd@mastodon.green · 55 minutes ago

@stshank @tante I agree. I think in time they'll come to regret this. Updating the internet will be a thankless task that brings no one any traffic, your info gets robbed safe presented as Google's own. Eventually (soon) people will stop putting anything of worth on the internet, which will become nothing but bots spiralling misinformation.

eclexic

@theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social · 2 hours ago

@tante I am pretty sure their ideal world, and the ideal world of all these companies, is to have their chatbot intercede twice in _every_ communication.

It should change your outputs to remove nuance from your meaning, and then expand it so the entropy goes too low for a person to stand reading it. So, others must summarise with a bot. A second chance to inject what they want.

They want us to feel small if we don't use it to produce, and to feel overwhelmed if we don't use it to consume.

jamo

@jamoquanty@mastodon.social · 2 hours ago

@tante we will descend into madness if 'googling' ceases to be a verb

Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

@ozzelot@mstdn.social · 2 hours ago

@tante Yes

Tommi 🤯

@tommi@pan.rent · 2 hours ago

@tante No surprise

At least webrings will be so back

I FOR without NEXT, 0:1

@pikesley@mastodon.me.uk · 2 hours ago

@tante what have they done now?

Samir

@thesdev@social.vivaldi.net · 2 hours ago

@pikesley @tante https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/search/search-io-2026/#powerful-ai

Google

A new era for AI Search

We shared the next step in our journey to bring together the best of a search engine with the best of AI.

aburka 🫣

@aburka@hachyderm.io · 2 hours ago

@thesdev @pikesley @tante I felt sick watching the demo where you search for info about a "new hobby" and if you stop typing for 0.1s it starts spicy autocompleting... they quite literally want us to stop thinking independently

The Dubster

@thedubster@ohai.social · 2 hours ago

@tante Haven't they already?