It is *quite* funny that Britain is once again talking about Brexit and rejoining the EU. Don't get me wrong - I am in favour of it - but it's not like we didn't behave appallingly at the EU Christmas party, embarrassing ourselves and everybody else and then loudly proclaiming we're leaving before being sick on the hosts, tripping over and smashing face first into the door, taking a decade to find our way out only to realise we'd soiled ourselves, didn't know where we were, were hungry and didn't have any money and now we're at the window peering in shouting that we might consider coming back into the party if you're lucky, whilst the other guests look on, horrified, as they move to surreptitiously deadbolt the door.
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@TheBreadmonkey omg LOL like the EU is ever gonna let them back in
@TheBreadmonkey Toot O' the Day, right here.
ROFLMAO perfect! Look, we're definitely going to have to have a small talk with HR and have some structured mediation with our former colleagues if we are going to be able to work together in future.
@TheBreadmonkey At least y'all realize what happened. I saw Farage at an old rally here and my heart sunk to my stomach. Seriously, I'm so glad the light of day is shining on your country.
You spoke my mind. But more eloquently than I could
@TheBreadmonkey As a Swiss person I can promise you that no matter how arrogant toward the EU you are, the EU will always maintain a constructive stance.
This is an interesting example of why Paul Krugman's blog posts are so much better
Paul would offer a *specific concrete example of how the UK behaved toward the EU
but Ben doesn't offer any actual examples, just uses language tht mightt be called interenet rant
@TheBreadmonkey As much as I'd like to see a reversal, we have to accept that it's not going to be a simple case of rolling back, and moving on.
The pound or the blue passport.
They'll have to give up at least one to be let back in. Maybe both, but at least one.
@TheBreadmonkey Also: Ireland wants custody of the kid.
That's a pretty good summary. It'll probably take a decade or two until a sufficient threshold is reached for re-joining.
From my perspective as a German exhausted by the wasteful "I'm leaving now!!!" drama, imposed on us for several years: there's no point in trying to re-join, as long as there is still a "debate" in the UK. Once maybe 80% are in favor of it, the rest of the EU might gain trust again. If British attempts at cherry-picking from EU rules doesn't start again, that is.
However, I'd welcome Scotland as an independent country, any time.
@TheBreadmonkey Ben, you've written a lot of things, but this might just be my favourite one to date. 👏🏼
@TheBreadmonkey @benroyce
The rest of the EU would like us back, but they're going to want assurances against a future govt pulling the same shit. The EU reallyneedsto amend art 52 anyway, to require a referendum on the exit terms of all affected people: all adult citizens of the country, plus all EU residents of the country.
@TheBreadmonkey even if the EU would consider readmitting the UK, will the UK actually ever be in a viable internal state for that to be possible? I imagine that if Brexit came to be by way of a referendum, undoing it would have to take the same path. Are there really that many people willing the admit they were wrong? Which party would come forward with a proposal for a referendum? And Reform is climbing the ladder and it is not impossible that it will become the governing party.
@TheBreadmonkey Fortunatley it's just a trade, regulariry and political bloc so while it's normal and widespread to athropomorphise it, it doesn't feel embarassment or shame or resentment. Note ***Hungary*** an out an out Putin puppet didn't even have leave. Or to put another way, we may have pissed in the flowerbed, but they chundered all over the host.
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EU: First fix your weird, semi-dictatorial democracy, allow all UK parties any Referendums on independence that they desire. Oh, & on your way in, hand over all the keys, rubber stamps & Veto permission slips over to France, Germany & anyone else who we decide is trustworthy.
Also, your seat's in the back row now.
@TheBreadmonkey Ya, brevity was dumb. Not like, let's elect the lying sob twice to run one of the most powerful nations in the world, dumb. But still...
Harsh but fair.
@TheBreadmonkey can't speak for ALL my fellow party hosts, but knowing you went through some stuff at the time I would totally open that door and get my emergency trousers out of the cupboard.
A rather nice analogy, cheers Ben!😁
Reading some of the things Brexiters are still going on about reminds me of a course textbook from long ago, Eric Berne's "Games People Play."
Although he describes them as marital games, the complementary "Now See What You Made Me Do" and "You Got Me Into This" have definite resonances in Brexit arguments, i.e. it's always someone else's fault.
@TheBreadmonkey so beautifully put!
@TheBreadmonkey Well put, sir.
… and yeah, “We told you so” doesn’t quite cut it in this kind of situation, does it?
To be fair, it's more like the crazy uncle who hijacked the party and sullied the family name. Most EU countries and everyone normal in Europe recognise that it was a manufactured crisis for cheap political tricks that was a narrow 'victory' based on a hella lies.
@TheBreadmonkey I'm for it. They can also keep the pound 😊 💷
@TheBreadmonkey My stomach hurts from reading this. I love you so much. 
Epic analogy, Ben!
@TheBreadmonkey England really does need to go home, lie on the bathroom floor hugging the bowl and sleep it off.
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This is, by far, the best description of the whole sorry business. 👏👏
