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@randahl as far as US car exports to the EU and the UK, they are so minimal that it will make next to no difference in sales. Tesla is the biggest player and has only about 2% of the overall market. Ford and Stellantis products sold in Europe are almost exclusively manufactured in Europe. GM gave up on Europe a long time ago selling Opel/Vauxhall to Stellantis and anything else they might sell is so niche as to not count.

@randahl
Yes, he would. Because he believes that he has the ultimate leverage and believes he is in the power position when it comes to all matters of negotiation.

@randahl Canada's economy is too intertwined--especially for the auto sector to mess with this without any contingency plans (unlike Tr*mp, who doesn't know what contingency means).

Growing up and until I moved away, I would have been able to tell you who the auto union leader's name was, he was that important to the Canadian economy.

@randahl It's just a ploy to get out of NATO, (motive not understood) other than a delusional affinity for fellow robber-baron types in Russia.

He's burning bridges with EU and US for a long shot to become, what, an even bigger-time robber-baron?

We can guess how this ends.

@randahl
Sales of US cars in Canada have already dropped to record lows, and we're bringing in Chinese EVs for the first time, but none of this seems to be making an impact on the US executive branch. I'm not sure there's much anyone can do, short of getting on Fox News, that can influence their thinking.

@randahl @roknrol

You (weirdly) seem to assume that the orange pustule is rational.

@randahl the market share of usa‑made cars in the eu is 4.4% and declining

@randahl just stop supplying the USA EUV lithography parts and their high end chip industry is kaboom

@randahl

"US to stop collecting tariffs deemed illegal by Supreme Court on Tuesday"

February 22, 2026

Stop playing into their dirty billionaire hands, perpetuating scandals so unfounded prices increase even more.

Were all waiting for our refunds the corporations received as planned by the greedy bastards who do anything they like and get away with it; bailout GWB '08.

Reading between the lines, it's a superpower.

US judge orders refunds for more than $130bn in illegal Trump tariffs

@randahl I'm happy to buy less american items. Many in Europe feels the same ✨

@randahl yes, but.

But we have to NOT import US cars here in Europe. No way. US "cars" are just legalized polluant killing machines. Keep that shit out.

As @notjustbikes say:

https://youtu.be/--832LV9a3I?is=968XMIly7Y-ECdxR

@randahl

You don't hit back cars' for cars' tariff when Europe doesn't buy US cars for plenty of other reasons (gas guzzlers too big for comfort) anyhow.

You hit back with tariffs where it hurts. Republicans got that lessons almost every legislature period, when they hurt EU economy for no good reason.

@randahl that should be the default response: reply with at least the same tariffs back.
Alternatively, stop the export of steal completely. We need it to build up our army and the US factories will run dry very soon.

@randahl

does it matter?
Americans will soon no longer have the money to buy cars, and if they want to continue buying big inefficient cars without gas consumption limits, they could continue, we are sitting by the river and waiting for their corpses to pass through.