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@smallcircles@social.coop · 12 hours ago

It is good that there are calls to be/remain wary.

https://kevinak.se/blog/be-wary-of-bluesky

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47095597

Detecting issues early, and future problems can be anticipated and prepared for. And it allows people to make informed technology decisions and weigh the pros and cons, the risks.

There are currently all kinds of typical tech ideology and protocol wars being waged, yet the answer to "Should I use this technology?" always starts with "It depends.."

I am in the #ActivityPub camp for many of the reasons mentioned in the article. At the same time I am a multi-protocol #SocialWeb proponent. Use whatever works best to satisfy needs and forms a solution.

The article also rightfully states that you are not safe from re-centralization risks and corporate capture with any protocol. Esp. not based on the protocol alone.

Did we ever honestly investigate risks to our #fediverse? What if we get big uptake, adoption, billions of fedizens? What shape will that take. Will it bring us "true social"?

Be Wary of Bluesky

Bluesky promises decentralization, but nearly every user's data sits on Bluesky's servers, and every new ATProto app reinforces that centralization. T

julian

@julian@activitypub.space · 9 hours ago

@smallcircles@social.coop I'm not at all surprised that the Hacker News crowd is so pro-Bluesky, coming to its defense in the comments.

I know that those commenters aren't the same as the AP critics, but it certainly does seem like they give BlueSky and ATProto the widest benefit of the doubt, while at the same time criticizing ActivityPub for the smallest of faults.

🫧 socialcoding..

@smallcircles@social.coop · 3 hours ago

@julian yeah, heavy on people who look more at the 'growth hackability' coefficient and profitability, than moral compass or the amount of soul you have to sell.

But there are roughly 2 crowds on HN. A sizable group is comparable to value-aligned folks you find here on the fediverse. They are the ones making critical notes, and ensure many of the good articles pop up on the front page.

And as a humane tech activist it is relatively easy to 'bump' the positive messages that blissful unaware devs need to see, to raise awareness on things. Esp. if you are in Europe it is relatively easy to get things to the front page that highlight the big problems of our modern tech.

ikuturso

@ikuturso@mastodon.social · 11 hours ago

@smallcircles not being safe because of the protocol alone is patently obvious and it has been infuriating to watch the Bluesky people obfuscate this and the fact that a protocol being decentralized in theory is also not the same thing as the platform being decentralized constantly. Since it is so obvious I can only presume they do it on purpose (and then others on the bandwagon who just say what others have told them repeat it).

Hans Boelens

@boebels@mastodon.nl · 12 hours ago

@smallcircles it depends

🫧 socialcoding..

@smallcircles@social.coop · 12 hours ago

@boebels Exactly! 😃

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