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GeofCox
GeofCox
@GeofCox@climatejustice.social  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ChrisMayLA6

The UK has also made political choices that favour a low-skill-low-wage economy, whch many of its European neighbours have avoided.

The healthy trade union movements and company legal/financial infrastructures favouring employee participation in most north-west European countries, for example, raise labour costs and therefor push companies to automate, creating long-term productivity gains and high skill requirements.

Their better balanced economies - less dependent on services - also create more high-skill-high-wage jobs, while the UK creates a few such jobs in the City of London - but lots in low-skill-low-pay areas like hospitality.

The mistakes of Thatcherism compounded by the Blair/Brown governments' failure to correct them, still haunt the UK - and they're still being actively propagated, for example in the continuing neglect of arts and media funding and education - one of the few areas in which the UK has absolutely excelled, has created enviable incomes and skill sets, and has the natural advantage on the world stage of the English language.

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GeofCox
GeofCox
@GeofCox@climatejustice.social  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ChrisMayLA6

The UK has also made political choices that favour a low-skill-low-wage economy, whch many of its European neighbours have avoided.

The healthy trade union movements and company legal/financial infrastructures favouring employee participation in most north-west European countries, for example, raise labour costs and therefor push companies to automate, creating long-term productivity gains and high skill requirements.

Their better balanced economies - less dependent on services - also create more high-skill-high-wage jobs, while the UK creates a few such jobs in the City of London - but lots in low-skill-low-pay areas like hospitality.

The mistakes of Thatcherism compounded by the Blair/Brown governments' failure to correct them, still haunt the UK - and they're still being actively propagated, for example in the continuing neglect of arts and media funding and education - one of the few areas in which the UK has absolutely excelled, has created enviable incomes and skill sets, and has the natural advantage on the world stage of the English language.

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Raff Karva
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@RaffKarva@sunny.garden  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@GeofCox @ChrisMayLA6

"Low-skill-low-pay areas like hospitality"

Average chef salary in Paris 45,000€, average chef salary in London £23,000.

French cuisine is world renowned. British cuisine has been named as the worst in the world.

It was a choice to create a society which regards professions that require years of learning, practice and improvement mixed with artistic flare as "low-skilled".

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GeofCox
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@GeofCox@climatejustice.social  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@RaffKarva

What you're touching on here are very fundamental differences between the UK and French (and other continental) economies.

In France, you generally have to have a specific qualification for any job, and it will not generally be seen as just a job, but a 'métier' - almost like a vocation n English. This is why in a French restaurant you're likely to be served by a member of the owning family (and many restaurants here still are family-owned) or by an older man who is a career-waiter, whereas in the UK it's more likely to be a young person in a stop-gap job (who might well have a university degree !).

This in turn has a recursive relationship with the high labour cost but lower fixed costs (eg. premises) in France relative to the UK - and the ripples of differences like this spread out to shape all business behaviours.

Not to mention the even more radical differences between French and UK food cultures !

I don't now much about chefs specifically - but my guess is that those London averages include some very well paid and highly skilled people - but also many without a broad training foundation and only a specialist repertoire - whereas in Paris they're probably all classically trained.

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Emeritus Prof Christopher May
Emeritus Prof Christopher May
@ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@GeofCox @RaffKarva

That's a great point about the impact of businesses of high fixed (property costs) with low(er) variable costs (labour)... a structural problem that bedevils any business that requires some sort of physical footprint (and for the financial services is less of a problems as 'backroom' work is outsourced, often abroad, and much of the 'labour' can be conducted away from accessible business locations).

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@ReggieHere@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@GeofCox

Yes, financialisation rules and graduates in areas that don't support corporate profit-making are unable to pursue their careers even when there's valuable work that needs to be done in their academic areas.

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Emeritus Prof Christopher May
Emeritus Prof Christopher May
@ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@GeofCox

yes, I completely agree, this is certainly a politic choice made in the light of a specific way of understanding the economy... in a sense, as so often we've chosen wrongly & now want to blame someone else for the consequences

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