@tbodt @j0ebaldw1n But he doesn't need market feedback, he's literally cloning Discord. It already owns the market.

@deepbluev7 @j0ebaldw1n I mean what Matrix tries to do is cool and all but the Fluxer dev is very right and pragmatic in that it doesn't work and would get in the way of building the product people want.

If it were easy to build true reliable distributed message federation, that would be one thing. But Matrix has been trying and failing to make it reliable for 11 years. So that's not going to work. Never mind the moderation problem...

What I want to see is just built in data migration. An instance to instance flow for one shot migration of guilds, home accounts, and DMs. It won't help if a server goes offline suddenly, but it covers the important issue of instances winding down. The good part is this can be built after the fact, it doesn't have to be a core design feature upfront so it's not blocking.

But yeah at the end of the day, it does require server operators to be responsible. FWIW I host a Synapse server that used to live on a Mac Mini at a friend's apartment. It has now moved through two production servers and is now on redundant infra. Keeping servers alive is not *that* hard if you care... and if you don't, well, you probably shouldn't be hosting stuff for people if they don't know the risks!