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Matthias Kirschner
Matthias Kirschner
@kirschner@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

(Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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ReindeR Rustema
ReindeR Rustema
@rrustema@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@kirschner @Gerbsen and if Germany would have spent that on free software the rest of the world could have saved also a lot of public money because that software would likely be also useful in other countries.

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kolorafa
kolorafa
@kolorafa@mastodon.com.pl  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

Też bym szukał alternatyw jakby mi opłaty stałe tak szybko rosły...

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Franklin Delano Stallone
Franklin Delano Stallone
@fds@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@kirschner I think it has no choice but to to continue unless there people are forced to switch. Otherwise they will naturally go with what they know.

The downside to open hardware is that I think it will always favor whoever has the most money despite ideas that it will produce innovation. At this point I think the only way to combat that would be for governments to give an equal amount of the MS costs to legitimate open source developers.

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Franklin Delano Stallone
Franklin Delano Stallone
@fds@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@kirschner Not to say that we should go back to closed system but tech monopolies have been allowed to go on to long. Ex: opening up the iPhone to other browsers will likely just add to the Chrome dominance which is worse than the Safari lock-in imo.

So, I think we just need to accept the only likely way to fight the dominance is money at this point.

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Matthias Kirschner
Matthias Kirschner
@kirschner@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fds The problems with monopolies is also the reason why we are in front of the European Court of Justice against #Apple: https://fsfe.org/activities/apple-litigation/apple-litigation.en.html

FSFE - Free Software Foundation Europe

DMA: Litigation against Apple - FSFE

The FSFE is intervening for Free Software in a key court case involving Apple and the European Commission. Apple is trying to avoid obligations derived fro...
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Daniel, pined-lizard edition
Daniel, pined-lizard edition
@daniel@masto.doserver.top  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@kirschner @Gina

What the actual Dickens??!!

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Anthony Dardis
Anthony Dardis
@adardis@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@kirschner With 1T Euro you could build a lot of infrastructure, subsidize a lot of free/open software projects. It would not be an easy transition.

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Gregory
Gregory
@grishka@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@kirschner ReactOS would've been finished AND caught up with Windows 11 in terms of compatibility :D

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PMFL :coffefied:
PMFL :coffefied:
@PMFL@masto.pt  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@kirschner 🤯

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mray
mray
@mray@social.tchncs.de  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner A more visual representation of how #DigitalSovereignty is going:

Illustration showing how the German Federal Administration sent millions to Microsoft: 270 million in 2023, 347 million in 2024 and  a whopping 481 million in 2025.
Illustration showing how the German Federal Administration sent millions to Microsoft: 270 million in 2023, 347 million in 2024 and a whopping 481 million in 2025.
Illustration showing how the German Federal Administration sent millions to Microsoft: 270 million in 2023, 347 million in 2024 and a whopping 481 million in 2025.
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Frank Heijkamp
Frank Heijkamp
@alterelefant@mastodontech.de  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner And Microsoft will obviously not lower their prices now they have the customer onboard in their system. When it is extremely difficult and costly for your customer to leave you can basically ask any price you want.

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Jesus Margar
Jesus Margar
@jesusmargar@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner Seeing this only as an open source /free software issue is missing the football, in my opinion. Most of that money won't be on software but on cloud services, servers and support. You may replace MS for open source versions but I doubt the costs would go down considerably and I am not sure how many companies would be able to step in at that level. The Government may have to do it by itself (which is possible, but would take time and serious investment).

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Matthias Kirschner
Matthias Kirschner
@kirschner@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@jesusmargar it is often the argument when dealing with monopolies that they are too big to be replaced by another company. That is exactly the problem, and you have to start implementing strategies so there can be more competition by splitting up different components.

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Sonlight
Sonlight
@Sonlight@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner Jaw Dropping big number lol. The financial Markets is Shocked

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Sonlight
Sonlight
@Sonlight@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner Whats all the payments for? They look more like covert donations in support of some dark agenda

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GhostOnTheHalfShell
GhostOnTheHalfShell
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner

Imagine the lies of all the open source projects if they got just a few pennies from all that money

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xs4me2
xs4me2
@xs4me2@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner

Utterly ridiculous indeed... imaging the amount of software, infrastructure, knowledge and jobs this could have led to in Europe... time for change!

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lostprototype
lostprototype
@lostprototype@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner Brilliant question to be asking. And lays bare the lie of "build versus by".

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unqualifiedtechbros
unqualifiedtechbros
@unqualifiedtechbros@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227390419_Against_Intellectual_Monopoly

Supporting intellectual monopoly which includes the likes of Microsoft, is supporting externalities which have devastating consequences for society.

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Mark van Bijnen
Mark van Bijnen
@MvB19@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner that will be 1B in 2 years time, wow. It doubles every 2 years.

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Valentino Spataro
Valentino Spataro
@iusondemand@mastodon.uno  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner thank you

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Peet Tetteroo
Peet Tetteroo
@Pettet8@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner @Gerbsen

Und sie benennen nicht die telemetry data die Microsoft bekomen hat gratis und was verwendet und verkauft wird..

Genau, ein von die ursache das Denmark und Schlesswig-Holstein ihre behorden von Microsoft abholen und Open-source gehn.

Auch in Frankreich sind die 600K Gendarmerie schon auf open-source.

Die regierung had in 2024 ein open-source project gestarted und ab ende 2027 mussen 2.5 million beambten gewechselt haben. Source: https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/

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Markus Feilner
Markus Feilner
@mfeilner@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner #steuergeldexport

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MoveFastAndFixThings
MoveFastAndFixThings
@gwilymgj@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kirschner I figured it would be a big number but WTF!

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