Or liberal like Lyndon Johnson, who promoted environmentalism, civil rights, a "great society" and also escalated the vietnam war committing tens of thousands of american 18 year olds to be slaughtered in a war of colonial aggression in a proxy war with china?
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You know, Lyndon Johnson, the president of the united states who named his penis Jumbo and would use his power to whip it out and make people look at it without any consequences?
Liberal like Harry Truman, the only person in the history of the world to nuke people.
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Liberal like Andrew Jackson who basically founded the Democratic Party and carried out a massive Ethnic Cleansing campaign in the Trail of Tears after explicitly ignoring a Supreme Court order not to.
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Liberal like Bill Clinton who tried to make it illegal to do math when that math resulted in strong encrypted communications, and sold off our cultural history to the entertainment industry through signing the Sonny Bono Copyright act and the DMCA.
Its not a kind history
A thing I've been working on (well... working on working on, working on designing the machine to lay the bricks for the foundation, kinda) is a means for people to reach consensus on what they actually agree on, in a way that is both as frictionless as possible but also accountable to logic and facts.
TLDR: I'd like to see us defining ourselves less by all-encompassing labels and more by specific, well-examined, clearly-stated principles.
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yep, its similar to when I argue that we shouldn't be discussing the merits of one policy vs another, we should spend our time discussing what the criteria for goodness of outcome are.
like, I like UBI and a flat tax as a decent compromise position we could implement in normal american government (pre fascist takeover), but its because of specific properties that policy achieves, reduction of income inequality, elimination of tax loopholes so taxes apply more fairly etc
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