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Jen Simmons
Jen Simmons
@jensimmons@front-end.social  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

I’m seeing so much about LLMs in my feed today.

Web designers and developers — how are you feeling about AI and what it means for your work?

Are you using the tools? How? What’s changing?

How do you expect AI to be used in the future for making websites & web apps?

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Hidde
Hidde
@hdv@front-end.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@jensimmons interesting as a subject of philosphical enquiry. Tiring as its current iteration is intertwined with late stage capitalism and ethics constantly waved away, politely or consciously.

Not using it much. Sometimes find it helpful to find stuff, or a word or phrase via natural language description.

I expect people will use it (and they are), and that it, in most hands, will lead to more bloat and to less trustworthy and less accessible sites/apps.

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wortwart
wortwart
@wortwart@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jensimmons I'd wish it would go away, for several reasons. But it won't.

I don't think hate and refusal is a useful reaction to it, though. We got a tool based on VS Code and Claude which turns out to be actually helpful and creates reasonable code. I use it sometimes for boring stuff and then I check the code. It also helped me when I was stuck with an issue once (which was a bit humiliating).

I think it will have a devastating effect on developers who start now. Still, the effects on our jobs are less horrible than LLMs producing crap texts, fake images and disinformation.

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Dan Burzo
Dan Burzo
@db@typo.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jensimmons https://typo.social/@db/116056507371498997

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Jeremy Keith
Jeremy Keith
@adactio@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jensimmons It gives me the ick.

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aron
aron
@idiomatic@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jensimmons There are plenty of good reasons not to incorporate LLM code gen into one's workflow, but one I haven't seen mentioned here is that I fear that relying on such tools will, over time, make me a worse developer.

Like, I crochet as a hobby. If I used a magic machine that did most of the crocheting for me, my skills would plateau and inevitably atrophy.

Programming is a craft like any other, requiring deep, consistent practice to get good and stay good. LLMs hinder that practice (imo).

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beeps :ash_tail: ✈️ 🇸🇪
beeps :ash_tail: ✈️ 🇸🇪
@beeps@social.beeps.gay replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jensimmons Not a fan of the plagiarism machine, no. I can only imagine it’s already stolen things I’ve made before.

A lot of experienced developers I know are tempted to just quit the industry. They’re sick of organisations trying to force genAI tools on them, in turn devaluing their work and taking away the joy derived from making things and solving problems yourself.

I’ve used it for non-dev tasks before, mainly collating things or transforming data formats, but every bit of code I’ve gotten out of an LLM has been buggy or broken in some form, even really basic shit. I don’t trust it to write code at all.

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Fynn Ellie Becker
Fynn Ellie Becker
@mvsde@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jensimmons Even though I’m not using LLMs at all, the constant onslaught of news and tech bro boosters has beaten me into a state, where I’m loosing interest in web development altogether.

Right now I’m hoping that I can just survive a little bit longer than the AI hype bubble. But the fun is already not there anymore. Doing my job feels like slowly getting sucked down a quicksand hole.

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Luke Sutton
Luke Sutton
@lukesutton@mastodon.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@jensimmons can’t wait for the bubble to pop and for us to — potentially — salvage the really valuable stuff after. Lots of hype, little evidence.

I’m generally disappointed with contemporary web dev. There is a lot of JS slop all ready — slow, bloated, brittle — and I only see LLM accelerating that.

The next few years are gonna be rough.

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Barktic Fox :therian:
Barktic Fox :therian:
@alahmnat@woof.tech replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@jensimmons I hate it, it's garbage, and when possible, I intend to avoid using applications that are written with it.

God I cannot wait for this damn bubble to pop already.

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Marcus Anthony Cyganiak
Marcus Anthony Cyganiak
@MarcusAnthonyCyganiak@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@jensimmons

I’m currently using Gemini 3 Pro in Google Antigravity for WordPress theme development. It’s incredible.

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Joni Korpi
Joni Korpi
@jonikorpi@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@jensimmons Feeling disrespect towards the people building it, and sadness towards the people using it.

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sknob
sknob
@sknob@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@jensimmons you’re the last major browser without LLM crap crammed into it. Make it a marketing argument. There is no ethical use of GenAI.

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Marius Gundersen
Marius Gundersen
@gundersen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@jensimmons I expect LLMs will get better and the cost lower, which means simple webapp will become disposable. You don't need to plan or project an app for a department, they can just have one made and then throw it away when they are done, or generate a new one when the specs change. LLMs are much better at small projects (and always will, because of the cost of context) so it's cheaper to generate many disposable apps than maintain one large complex one.

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Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)
Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)
@jaredwhite@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@jensimmons I do not use LLMs on principle, and my work as a software developer and creator continues to hum along just fine.

I also consider slopcoding to be incompatible with free/libre software, so I am very concerned both by (a) increasing slop additions to ostensibly FLOSS codebases, and (b) impending ecosystem collapse due to open software's endless scraping & license stripping by LLM vendors.

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Egor Kloos
Egor Kloos
@dutchcelt@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@jensimmons I’m using LLMs for some things more regularly. It helps with incrementally documenting my work. I'm sometimes surprised how well it does. But it still requires a lot of checking and redaction. So, not a win for productivity.
Also, they are still awful at working on existing CSS code bases. Not sure what's going on there.

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Justin Ferrell
Justin Ferrell
@developerjustin@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@jensimmons I find great use when asking these tools to “do” things and not to “know” things.

Transform a bunch of HTML that would require me to do it by hand, rework a specific conditional to work a different way, etc.

Any task that requires access to prior knowledge is hit or miss at best for me but honest to goodness “grunt work” saves me a TON of time in the aggregate.

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Jason Nickel
Jason Nickel
@JasonNickel@nrw.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons I‘ve been avoiding it because I didn’t like how much energy it needs and how dangerous it can be for society.

But I also need to think of myself and how my coworkers are doing their work much faster now. I will not be able to compete anymore without AI. So I gave up and started using it. It does help already but there is still much to learn. The ecosystem is already so advanced that it’s hard to get into it now.

We need to solve the fundamental problems on the way.

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nina splendorr ✨🏳️‍⚧️
nina splendorr ✨🏳️‍⚧️
@splendorr@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons Feels terrible, and all of my colleagues who admit to using them are doing worse and worse work while feeling like they’re on top of the world

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Michael Buss Rønne
Michael Buss Rønne
@mbuss@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons i must say, I don’t think you can use the results of this poll for anything other than conclude that Mastoson users really really hate AI. But not at all representative of the general sentiment.

I am using it a lot these days. Was a skeptic for long. It’s Undeniably useful if you learn to use the tools properly instead of being dismissive and thinking that copy past to ChatGPT is still the name of the game in 2026

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Bjarne Oldrup
Bjarne Oldrup
@oldrup@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons I've seen what only consuming did to my mother, so I much prefer creating by the means of my own intelligence. Also, I enjoy it; hand coding. Slow cooking.

That said, LLM's can help me identify accessibility issues I otherwise wouldn't notice, so as a skilled "linter" it does have its place.

I don't expect many to bear the costs of handmade websites much longer, and as I'm too old to delegate the craft to AI, I'm considering a shift in career.

Thanks for all the inspiration, btw.

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Matt Wilcox
Matt Wilcox
@mattwilcox@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons Produces awful results; so straight away I can discount it on that alone. Not considering all the other issues.

It’s trained on the web. Most of the web is awful code. No surprises it can only generate bloated inaccessible garbage.

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Ralph Brandi
Ralph Brandi
@thereisnocat@toot.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons it’s the thing that makes me glad I retired in 2024

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Being Left Behind Enjoyer
Being Left Behind Enjoyer
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons I expect it to not be used.

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Ladon
Ladon
@ladon@mastodon.ladon-dragon.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons Avoid at all cost.

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Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:
Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:
@janl@narrativ.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons not gonna touch that shit with a ten foot pole.

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David Peach 🍑
David Peach 🍑
@peach@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons id rather stand on a plug than use ai in my workflow.

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Darby M. Dixon III
Darby M. Dixon III
@darby3@zirk.us replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@jensimmons

i hate it

https://ai-sucks-actually.fyi/

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