@aral This is not the case. See https://element.io/en/legal/ethics for the public ethics policy of who we sell to.
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@aral I am not sure, but after reading the linked message and have a quick look at the statement this reads like A.C.A.B at best. But more like policing is facism innits essence?
When I read your post I was like… 😬 this will generate a lot of discussion yet still a good post Aral :)
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@aral @precariousmind @element Hahaha. So next time I see someone putting down Signal and boosting Matrix, I can say “signal isn’t run by fascist bootlickers.”
@MisuseCase @davidgerard @aral @precariousmind @element Well. Just for the sake of accuracy, matrix foundation includes people from element. They have strong ties. But matrix foundation is at least supposed to be neutral and mostly about the protocol. But it is hard to avoid element in the matrix ecosystem as of yet anyways. So I can see your point.
@prma @MisuseCase @aral @precariousmind @element so to be clear, you're saying Matrix are just the other ten guys at the table
@davidgerard @MisuseCase @aral @precariousmind @element No. I’m just saying that a protocol is just a contract between two devices.
You can implement and use matrix protocol without any involvement of the element people or even matrix foundation. Someone might.
Now is that something that happens today? Mostly not. But it is not like people implementing matrix specification are automatically sympathizing with element or matrix foundation.
@prma @davidgerard @aral @precariousmind @element So, I am not clear about all this stuff but Element is a coding platform, right?
@MisuseCase @davidgerard @aral @precariousmind @element I’m not sure what you mean by coding platform.
Element develops home server applications and client applications based on Matrix protocol. Sort of like how mastadon is to activitypub.
And they sell enterprise SaaS and support for these products as their business model. You can for example use conduit as the homeserver and lots of client apps. You then are not using element’s products but using matrix. (1/2)
@aral this looks like a promising solution that might work for some people https://peergos.org/
I haven't fully research it fully but might test it soon.
