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Casey Newton
Casey Newton
@caseynewton@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

The walls are closing in on infinite-scroll feeds and other addictive design mechanics. I wrote about how lawyers and regulators may have finally found a way around Section 230 https://www.platformer.news/social-media-addiction-trial-eu-tiktok-investigation/

But they are arriving at the fight in a weaker position than usual. In a polarized world, their failures around child safety are increasingly the one thing that partisans of every stripe can agree on. Regulators are no longer impressed by the bare minimum. (They have teenagers of their own now, and all the screen-time battles that come with them.)

I don’t know which trial or regulatory action will be the one that finally forces major changes to social platforms for teenagers. But it seems increasingly clear that change is in fact coming. And for the first time, some subset of users will find that the feed they are scrolling through suddenly comes to an end.
But they are arriving at the fight in a weaker position than usual. In a polarized world, their failures around child safety are increasingly the one thing that partisans of every stripe can agree on. Regulators are no longer impressed by the bare minimum. (They have teenagers of their own now, and all the screen-time battles that come with them.) I don’t know which trial or regulatory action will be the one that finally forces major changes to social platforms for teenagers. But it seems increasingly clear that change is in fact coming. And for the first time, some subset of users will find that the feed they are scrolling through suddenly comes to an end.
But they are arriving at the fight in a weaker position than usual. In a polarized world, their failures around child safety are increasingly the one thing that partisans of every stripe can agree on. Regulators are no longer impressed by the bare minimum. (They have teenagers of their own now, and all the screen-time battles that come with them.) I don’t know which trial or regulatory action will be the one that finally forces major changes to social platforms for teenagers. But it seems increasingly clear that change is in fact coming. And for the first time, some subset of users will find that the feed they are scrolling through suddenly comes to an end.
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Why the infinite-scroll childhood may be coming to an end

A lawsuit that begins in LA this week, along with a new investigation into TikTok by the European Commission, could change social apps forever. PLUS: AI ads at the Super Bowl and in ChatGPT
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Jeff Atwood
Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@caseynewton it's not the infinite scroll feed that's the problem, it's the "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality. Who would object to an infinite scroll feed of amazing cat and dog pictures? Why can't we treat the disease instead of the symptoms? Learninate me on this one, Casey Newton!

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Jay 🆘
Jay 🆘
@jsit@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@codinghorror @caseynewton I strongly disagree. I think the infinite feed mechanic itself is a major issue. This is what keeps people reaching for their phones and what keeps them on their phones for longer — the perpetual promise of some new exciting Content that will make them laugh or gasp or be outraged. Anything other than sitting quietly in a room alone.

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Jay 🆘
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@jsit@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@codinghorror @caseynewton People have been so focused on the content on these platforms that they are missing the forest for the trees. “People just like checking things,” as I heard it described on a podcast once.

In college at the turn of the millennium we had email terminals at various locations on campus, and I checked my email every chance I got between classes. Usually there wasn’t even anything new.

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@jsit@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@codinghorror @caseynewton It’s never been about likes or virality or ragebait, although those are things, too. It’s just our hardwired need for stimulation, input, novelty.

Every second that you’re not looking at your phone is a second that something new — NEW! — might be on it.

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Casey Newton
Casey Newton
@caseynewton@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@codinghorror I think a lot of folks‘ experience of recommendation algorithms is that they overserve them even when all they want is cute dogs! and they still feel gross afterwards. you could probably design one that made you feel better, but I'm still not sure they should scroll infinitely, especially for kids under 16

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Jeff Atwood
Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@caseynewton also of note: our 3 kids (16, 13, 13) have actively rejected most digital "social" stuff. They love YouTube (and I don't mean the weirdo parts) and vastly prefer in-person or really positive team multiplayer games (roblox, minecraft, etc). Maybe it's the not the children who are wrong, but us?

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TAL
TAL
@tal@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@codinghorror just a friendly heads-up Jeff... mine were like that, at those ages too... It's not necessarily guaranteed that things will stay that way

- a regretful dad who wished he hadn't felt quite so superior to the addiction engineers

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ValorZard
ValorZard
@valorzard@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@codinghorror @caseynewton I’ve noticed this with my own friends
Most people I know I feel like use discord way more than proper social media

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