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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

The singularity has been cancelled.

What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

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hattifattener
hattifattener
@hattifattener@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 minutes ago

@cstross I was reading about the mind boggling number of viruses in seawater and it reminded me of the mind boggling amount of malware traffic on the net (spam, vuln scans, slop...).

Shower thought of the day.

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Graydon
Graydon
@graydon@canada.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 minutes ago

@cstross This reminds me of the late Christina Schulman's contention that true AI would come about, if it came about, due to the arms race between spam bots and spam filters.

The personality and objectives of a Mind that arose from spam filters makes an interesting thought exercise.

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Greg Brooks
Greg Brooks
@keyboardg@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 41 minutes ago

@cstross Project completion time stretches as you apprach the Slop Horizon entering the Spamularity.

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Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)
Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)
@ovid@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@cstross Look on the bright side ... and tell me what it is when you've found it.

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StevenSavage (he/him)
StevenSavage (he/him)
@StevenSavage@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross taking from @pluralistic - it's the Enshitularity.

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Tony Fisk
Tony Fisk
@arfisk@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross we hear a chorus of "*I'm* singular!"

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Karl Schroeder
Karl Schroeder
@KarlSchroeder@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross
Which runs on the Antinet.

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GhostOnTheHalfShell
GhostOnTheHalfShell
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross

No, no no no no no no.. This is the singularity.

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Angus McIntyre
Angus McIntyre
@angusm@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Slopocolypse Now

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Aceade
Aceade
@aceade@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross I'm currently working on a game where the antagonists are a cult of spammers for whom clogging the Internet with spam is a sacred duty.

A dumb idea that I originally came up with a decade ago, but it doesn't seem all that implausible any more 😞

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Thomas Thomassen
Thomas Thomassen
@onionarmy@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Neil Stephenson's The Diamond Age comes to mind... 🙈

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Peter Brett
Peter Brett
@krans@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross A spamularity is implied to have happened at some point in the history of Neal Stephenson's book ‘Anathem’

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Kevin Granade
Kevin Granade
@kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross maybe we're on the white hole side.

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Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
@dacig@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Maybe if we build enough data centers we can have the singularity, and just before the atmosphere and us burst into flames it will give an answer to life, the universe and everything. I can't wait.

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Simon, Global Thought Leader
Simon, Global Thought Leader
@Salty@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

We have the answer *already*.

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Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
@dacig@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

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Simon, Global Thought Leader
Simon, Global Thought Leader
@Salty@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

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Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉
@dacig@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@cstross @Salty Let me introduce you a little known tech that has been running for 2.5 billion years, self assembles, is very cheap with several billiion technicians that can steer it:
🌱
I really don't think that if starches are a CC solution, we would need for high temp, high pressure, mineral hungry, crude PV chemsynth solutions from cockey monkeys.

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Graydon
Graydon
@graydon@canada.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross Agriculture, minimally anything resembling field agriculture, is one with Thebes the Golden. (No, not yet, but sure as death.)

Alternative food supply is essential, and direct synthesis isn't (likely) everything but it's an awful lot.

@dacig @Salty

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RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:
RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:
@rootwyrm@weird.autos replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross instead of a brain-in-a-box which slowly goes insane as the illusion can't be kept up, we get slop-in-a-box which drives the user insane with intentional lies.

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Gérard Fadrelle
Gérard Fadrelle
@gfadrelle@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross the singularity ? a black hole of slope ?

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acb
acb
@acb@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross always has been

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Ratsnake Games
Ratsnake Games
@ratsnakegames@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross i'll be honest: i still have no idea what the singularity is supposed to be

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@ratsnakegames

Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

The Coming Technological Singularity, Vernor Vinge, 1993

DAIR (Distributed AI Research Institute)

The TESCREAL Bundle

The array of utopian ideologies that power Silicon Valley's elite is ultimately bleakly eugenicist.
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Devlin :farfetchd:
Devlin :farfetchd:
@devlin@topspicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross slopularity, I'd say.

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Hugo Mills
Hugo Mills
@darkling@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross TBH, at this point it's be happy with single parity. At least the error correction's better than what we're being offered.

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bakachu
bakachu
@bakachu@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross the ai bros have decided the torment nexus is the singularity

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