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Derek Caelin is writing a book
Derek Caelin is writing a book
@derek@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

Alternatively (and somewhat less satisfying): keep the big choice, but have Neelix and Tuvok look aghast at Janeway when they are restored. (After all, they both remember Janeway looking them in the eye and killing them just moments ago.) Add a brief apotheosis in which Janeway experiences grief for her actions. Reveal her to know that she has done something wrong and sense that she has lost something of what she values: she's damaged her relationship with the crew.

This could also be very satisfying. We've established that Janeway is a very moral person and having her sacrifice her morality to get the crew home is a good story. It's "dark" and doesn't fit the tone of the show, but it would at least address the character issue.

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TychoJarez
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@TychoJarez@corteximplant.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@derek

My issue has always been that the recently resplit Tuvok and Neelix would both carry Tuvix' memory of his anguish at being, to his mind, murdered.

Sure, Tuvok would be able to suppress it and largely still Function, but essentially the woman he loves, his best friend, ordered him to be killed. And when his brain made those memories, he didn't have vulcan logic blocks to keep it all Tidy.

Neelix, as a much more Emotional character, should have had serious issues with continuing to serve with Janeway, his murderer.

But, if I recall correctly, it is never mentioned again, neither Neelix, nor Tuvok seems to show any emotional issues from having been put to death.

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Derek Caelin is writing a book
Derek Caelin is writing a book
@derek@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

Alternatively (and somewhat less satisfying): keep the big choice, but have Neelix and Tuvok look aghast at Janeway when they are restored. (After all, they both remember Janeway looking them in the eye and killing them just moments ago.) Add a brief apotheosis in which Janeway experiences grief for her actions. Reveal her to know that she has done something wrong and sense that she has lost something of what she values: she's damaged her relationship with the crew.

This could also be very satisfying. We've established that Janeway is a very moral person and having her sacrifice her morality to get the crew home is a good story. It's "dark" and doesn't fit the tone of the show, but it would at least address the character issue.

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@puercomal@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@derek I like the suggestion! We rewatch Voyager and DS9 all the time. Have to note another very common thread to these and TNG… “wow that terrible thing just happened… and we never spoke of it again.” Next episode the ship is fine, the remaining crew is fine, on to the next. Tuvix fits that perfectly

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