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Till Kleisli
Till Kleisli
@kleisli@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@reiver in my opinion, regular people will never write markdown. Regular people need an UI where they can select formatting options (or type information) like in MS Word.

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Sebastian Lasse
Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@reiver

Ack.
Sometimes other formats are useful and do not hinder.

For Client To Server, I will post the next example today.
It is a 50kb tsv with some base32 etc encoding. The 50kb contain the main practical and statistical info about the countries of the world from wikidata, OSM, World Bank, WHO and some other.

The map always adapts to "fedigeo" [above + "regions"+personal places] when you move or zoom it. Now you can use all the ids to federate well known places.

However, the Browser (JS Intl) has so many knowledge about the countries itself.
For example all names in all languages, also of currencies, languages etc.

It expands to 3 MB (!) ActivityPub JSON-LD if you request 4 languages (also has the Press Freedom Index and such things).

I consider 50kb / 3MB to be a difference. We just need the id …

digitalcourage https://martinfowler.com/bliki/Datensparsamkeit.html

(often thinking about my people at the sinking Carteret Islands)

A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
martinfowler.com

bliki: Datensparsamkeit

Datensparsamkeit is an approach to handling data, saying that we should only acquire and store data that we really need, to protect the privacy of our users.
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Sebastian Lasse
Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@reiver

Ack.
Sometimes other formats are useful and do not hinder.

For Client To Server, I will post the next example today.
It is a 50kb tsv with some base32 etc encoding. The 50kb contain the main practical and statistical info about the countries of the world from wikidata, OSM, World Bank, WHO and some other.

The map always adapts to "fedigeo" [above + "regions"+personal places] when you move or zoom it. Now you can use all the ids to federate well known places.

However, the Browser (JS Intl) has so many knowledge about the countries itself.
For example all names in all languages, also of currencies, languages etc.

It expands to 3 MB (!) ActivityPub JSON-LD if you request 4 languages (also has the Press Freedom Index and such things).

I consider 50kb / 3MB to be a difference. We just need the id …

digitalcourage https://martinfowler.com/bliki/Datensparsamkeit.html

(often thinking about my people at the sinking Carteret Islands)

A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
A map with the countries around the center in an aside. The Places in the menu adapt to zooming and moving the map.
martinfowler.com

bliki: Datensparsamkeit

Datensparsamkeit is an approach to handling data, saying that we should only acquire and store data that we really need, to protect the privacy of our users.
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Sebastian Lasse
Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@reiver

PS W3C also posted articles about above described JS Intl which is super important.
@celesteh

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Charles ☭ :trans: is a Green
Charles ☭ :trans: is a Green
@celesteh@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@reiver @sl007 hey this looks interesting but I wonder of you meant to tag somebody else? (Or maybe I have missed something obvious?)

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Sebastian Lasse
Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@celesteh
yup, I noticed this later, I wanted to include both accounts of "the other Charles" but one mouseclick failed :)
Sorry for disturbing.
As compensation I am sending a photo of a third Charles who I meet sometimes at the fox hunts :)

@reiver

Spotted king Charles once while doing a reportage about fox hunting in GB
Spotted king Charles once while doing a reportage about fox hunting in GB
Spotted king Charles once while doing a reportage about fox hunting in GB
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bumblefudge
@by_caballero@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@reiver i think notion might be a slightly better fit to the underlying AS data model than obsidian or hedgedoc, but i love the idea of a "direct WYSIWIG" AP client that writes to collections in a "files metaphor". C2S could enable this a bit, making one or more outboxes just the thing you upload these documents to...

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Till Kleisli
Till Kleisli
@kleisli@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@reiver in my opinion, regular people will never write markdown. Regular people need an UI where they can select formatting options (or type information) like in MS Word.

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Sebastian Lasse
Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@kleisli @reiver

but markdown can have a markdown editor just like htnl or other content types in the client UI.

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