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Prof. Sam Lawler
Prof. Sam Lawler
@sundogplanets@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

Comments due March 6.

I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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The Turtle
The Turtle
@the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@sundogplanets are we signatories to any treaties governing liability for shit that falls out of space from a known source? In the past, space crap was often the property of an actual country. Having falling space crap owned overwhelmingly by a single private company seems to throw the liability balance way off and I am not sure if there are space treaties that cover one fishfaced South African dumping junk all over the world from low orbit for years.

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Bud Talbot
Bud Talbot
@bud_t@m.ai6yr.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@sundogplanets wtaf??? That's crazy

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Andy Wootton
Andy Wootton
@woo@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@sundogplanets Why would Trump want sophisticated communication systems to be available to just anyone?

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katzenberger
katzenberger
@katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@sundogplanets

Making people having a hard time believing it is part of the strategy.

You're getting permission while something seems hilarious, and you're going to implement it when it has become feasible and you've got "investors".

All that will be left to do by then will be to say "I didnt think it will ever happen.", to which the answer will be: "But you gave us permission."

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gunstick
gunstick
@gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@sundogplanets the environment agency should have their word to say. Because all these millions of datacenters are going to be disposed off... And they won't be recycled. Just burned up. In the open. No filters. No catalysators. Just burned in the atmosphere.

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Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@pa27@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@sundogplanets This is more about the upcoming ipo than reality. It's to make dumb investors wet themselves with excitement. At that level, it'll probably work...
But still, needs a big NO from the FCC, who should not be the arbiter anyway, it's an international issue.
I wonder what the Chinese think about it?!!

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tizilogic
tizilogic
@tizilogic@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@sundogplanets 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies One Million Dollars meme, but with "One Million Satellites" as text instead
Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies One Million Dollars meme, but with "One Million Satellites" as text instead
Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies One Million Dollars meme, but with "One Million Satellites" as text instead
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Andrew Richens
Andrew Richens
@Andrew_Richens@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@sundogplanets Many thanks for sharing the link - I wasn't aware of his at all. Absolutely disgusting! I shall be submitting some 'developmental feedback' to the FCC!

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Jean-Baptiste Maillet
Jean-Baptiste Maillet
@jbm@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@sundogplanets plus space is not only a US thing (until some guy decide he wants a property title on it for some US thing). There is a higher authority for this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_law

Space law - Wikipedia

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downbeatdan
downbeatdan
@downbeatdan@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@sundogplanets Thanks for the great talk tonight in Hamilton Dr Sam. Scary but enlightening... time to spread this widely.

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Olivia Love
Olivia Love
@Olivialipssx@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

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klausfiend
klausfiend
@klausfiend@dcerberus.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@sundogplanets Any chance the guidelines for commenting when the FCC was mulling axing/reinstating Net Neutrality are still valid at this point?

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joriki
joriki
@joriki@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@sundogplanets

science fiction coming alive ...

poster for the silly TV show "Quark", a 1977 American science fiction sitcom starring Richard Benjamin. Quark was created by Buck Henry, co-creator of the spy spoof Get Smart.

The show was set on a United Galaxy Sanitation Patrol Cruiser, an interstellar garbage scow operating out of United Galaxy Space Station Perma One in the year 2226. Adam Quark, the main character, works to clean up trash in space by collecting "space baggies" with his trusted and highly unusual crew.
poster for the silly TV show "Quark", a 1977 American science fiction sitcom starring Richard Benjamin. Quark was created by Buck Henry, co-creator of the spy spoof Get Smart. The show was set on a United Galaxy Sanitation Patrol Cruiser, an interstellar garbage scow operating out of United Galaxy Space Station Perma One in the year 2226. Adam Quark, the main character, works to clean up trash in space by collecting "space baggies" with his trusted and highly unusual crew.
poster for the silly TV show "Quark", a 1977 American science fiction sitcom starring Richard Benjamin. Quark was created by Buck Henry, co-creator of the spy spoof Get Smart. The show was set on a United Galaxy Sanitation Patrol Cruiser, an interstellar garbage scow operating out of United Galaxy Space Station Perma One in the year 2226. Adam Quark, the main character, works to clean up trash in space by collecting "space baggies" with his trusted and highly unusual crew.
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bananamangodog
bananamangodog
@bananamangodog@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@sundogplanets With Kessler syndrome thought to be inevitable now I'm surprised this is even being entertained and policy isn't being drawn up to ration new satellites and mandate retrieval of spent/decommissioned/junk satellites in order to get approval for a new one.

https://nasaspacenews.com/2025/01/urgent-warning-kessler-syndrome-could-collapse-modern-technology/#Why_the_Sudden_Alarm

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Muod
Muod
@muod@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@sundogplanets AI data centers project means the invasion of public space by one SpaceX!

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TehAppKiller
TehAppKiller
@TehAppKiller@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@sundogplanets That means to not comply with Police investigations and Courts orders (grok, grokipedia,...) worldwide through alternative SpaceX internet except by use of force. That means controlling Space launches. In addition to polluting our sky and the Space

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ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘
@anne_twain@theblower.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@sundogplanets Sounds like Musk - hubris unconstrained by reason.

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bit
bit
@bit@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@sundogplanets

Why would they even want AI datacenters in space? We haven't solved how to cool them without massive amounts of water down here on earth, how are they going to cool them up there? Some months back I read of someone else wanting to create the same datacenters in international waters. Is this just a new way for them to try to avoid laws they find restricting?

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anja
anja
@anja@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@sundogplanets Another huge distraction from the real challenges we face as a humanity?

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naught101
naught101
@naught101@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@sundogplanets

Meme format of Dr Evil from Austin Powers saying "One Million Dollars"
Meme format of Dr Evil from Austin Powers saying "One Million Dollars"
Meme format of Dr Evil from Austin Powers saying "One Million Dollars"
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Toni Aittoniemi
Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@sundogplanets Because our economy is no longer serving the public, but the financial system.

Data centers in space won’t work, but the investment bankers don’t know that, so bullshit that make number go up rules.

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Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽
Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽
@UweHalfHand@norcal.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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Steve Levitt
Steve Levitt
@J1Savage@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets

Remember the hole in ozone days ?
Sheesh .
Think it was after “ give hoot don’t pollute “ and just before acids rain.

Anyway ,, Now we blast rocket fuel through it for the new computer science data barns.
🤔. Interesting swings in folk ideology.

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:copyleft: Kiri :tux:
:copyleft: Kiri :tux:
@kiri@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets How would a data center event work in outer space? Heat would build up. Unless I'm missing something and the idea is to have something super worse than regular DCs down here?

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RowinSpeez
RowinSpeez
@RowinSpeez@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets the good thing is that Elon Musk has never delivered on anything he's ever promised, and this would require rocket launches at such an wildly high pace that I don't think they could come close to pulling this off.

It's just to juice SpaceX IPO and then musk can be a trillionaire. If the next US administration comes to be, this plan is dumpstered for sure.

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Hot Dog Water Moccasin
Hot Dog Water Moccasin
@GGMcBG@mstdn.plus replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets

Elon the illegal South African Nazi predator just can't stop pushing his unwanted stubby nub of a weenie in people's faces.

What a dirty pig.

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LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
@lexinova@cyberplace.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets may be a blessing in desguise, i mean if (when) they fuck up, it will (force) the US to clean their mess by inventing tech to clean out there (if scientifically possible i'm not well known in space physic).

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CM Thiede
CM Thiede
@cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets now he wants to corner the market on the sun's rays

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JamesB192
JamesB192
@jamesb192@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets let me marh this badly...

At a launch a second they could have that sucker up in months. At a launch every hour it'd take more than a century. At a launch a day millenia. Assuming of course one satellite per launch. That's just the getting to orbit bit. Fabbing the satellites might well take longer. After of course the lead time to ensure hallucinating chatbots are not on the worse granola.

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Kevin J. Rogers
Kevin J. Rogers
@kevinjrogers@me.dm replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@sundogplanets A.I. data centers in space is such a batshit crazy idea, it's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. But they do.

It's just mind-blowing. Like living inside a comic book.

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Prof. Sam Lawler
Prof. Sam Lawler
@sundogplanets@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

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katzenberger
katzenberger
@katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@sundogplanets

If somebody wants to venture into this, please test all steps.

The first one involves sending an email to ecfs@fcc.gov with "get form" and your email address in the message body.

The reply I got was trying to strangely gaslight me:

"Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

ecfs@fcc.gov
Your message couldn't be delivered. The Domain Name System (DNS) reported that the recipient's domain does not exist."

There seems to be a strange subdomain falstaff.fcc.gov involved. The attached error log says:

Diagnostic information for administrators:

Generating server: SJ0PR09MB11735.namprd09.prod.outlook.com

ecfs@fcc.gov
Remote server returned '550 5.4.310 DNS domain falstaff.fcc.gov does not exist [Message=InfoDomainNonexistent] [LastAttemptedServerName=falstaff.fcc.gov] [SA2PEPF00003023.namprd09.prod.outlook.com 2026-02-05T12:30:46.776Z 08DE6078A5284768]'
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bamfic
bamfic
@bamfic@autonomous.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@sundogplanets https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:vcjhk6pveljuwujipu56ggau/post/3me37lcvh6s22

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Aaron Brick — אהרן בריק
Aaron Brick — אהרן בריק
@aarbrk@mstdn.mx replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@sundogplanets Yikes. Is DA 26-113 the “docket number or rulemaking number of the proceeding”?

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teresa_athome
teresa_athome
@teresa_athome@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@sundogplanets There's a walkthrough here: https://e-ratecentral.com/Resources/Educational-Information/Guide-to-Reading-and-Filing-FCC-Comments

A Guide to Reading and Filing FCC Comments
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Wandering Star
Wandering Star
@pawsplay@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@sundogplanets https://www.fcc.gov/about/contact

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/how-comment

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@sundogplanets It's not going to work. That will be obvious long before he has all that many satellites up, and he'll move on to his next sick joke.

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Michael Kohne
Michael Kohne
@mhkohne@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@lauren @sundogplanets I think this one is about the IPO - he wants to pawn off SpaceX on the open market (especially now that he's rolled the other loser companies into it), and this is about hyping SpaceX. If the commentary were to kill the idea ASAP, it might help fubar the IPO, which would be good for all the rest of us.

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jbaggs
jbaggs
@jbaggs@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@lauren @sundogplanets It will probably destroy what it was meant to in the time it is being developed though. Just as Hyperloop was really meant to kill off high speed rail projects.

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noplasticshower
noplasticshower
@noplasticshower@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@sundogplanets have you ever thought of using the surface of the ocean to show the non-maths how this looks on a smaller sphere? Get them to drive a boat through the grid or something tangible.

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