Would be good if the EU could follow suit.
Hidden car door handles and lack of fully mechanical door opening is a massive safety failing.
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Good idea, and yeah the EU /; UK should follow suit.
@quixoticgeek my car has them, but has a little flap so you can get your fingers behind if it doesn't pop out. And it is fully mechanical in operation. So it can be done safely... but it's still a pointless gimmick IMHO.
Not sure, but I think part of the issue with Teslas is not only that if the handle doesn't pop out you can't open from the outside, but also that the inside handle isn't physically connected to the latch, and requires power to operate. IIRC there's a hidden manual "pull to release" cable somewhere, but most owners won't know about it...
@swaldman yep. And on the model 3 it's basically under the seat cushion. Noone knows where it is. It's just really really bad design.
@quixoticgeek the excuse has always been air resistance, but the actual effect of door handles compared to "making every car look like an SUV" (except Tesla, TBF) has to be tiny...
@swaldman @quixoticgeek The Renault ZOE’s rear door handles are flush, and hinged a bit back from the front. Push down on the front and you can get your fingers behind ‘em.
Far from ideal & intuitive, but an entirely passive way of making door handles aerodynamic.
(Oh, and if you need aerodynamics inside the car you’re doing something wrong)
@happydisciple @swaldman @quixoticgeek Having recently brushed a couple of inches of snow off the top and side of the car, and then scraped 2-4mm of ice off the windows, I'm very glad my car has old-fashioned handles so I could just grab it and pull very hard to break the ice around the door frame.
@swaldman @quixoticgeek they’re finally bringing back estates but it took them way too long. I guess there’s more money in selling huge batteries to push bricks through the air.